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  Email to Royal Commission on Lies

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i wrote this email today to the royal commission:.

  dear royal commission:.

  i am writing you to tell you that many of the jehovah's witnesses who have testified have lied to the commission under oath, and they have done so with ease because of what they have been taught through their publications.

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  umbertoecho

  Good on you. I have the same two volumes plus the older version that Ray Franz was involved in. May I PM you?
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  A must read for all JW's and Ex-JW's

  by iwasblind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys.

  i am about 60% through the book exiting the jw cult: a healing handbook: for current & former jehovah's witnesses .

  i bought this book because of a post about it last week so a big thank you for that.. i must say that everyone on this forum should consider giving this book a go.

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  umbertoecho

  Got it. Gotta go now and read it on my Kindle
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  A must read for all JW's and Ex-JW's

  by iwasblind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys.

  i am about 60% through the book exiting the jw cult: a healing handbook: for current & former jehovah's witnesses .

  i bought this book because of a post about it last week so a big thank you for that.. i must say that everyone on this forum should consider giving this book a go.

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  umbertoecho

  Right I'll get that one too. It sounds like the right sort of book for me. Thank you for bringing it to my/our attention ....no doubt it has been mentioned before and I missed it.
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  interesting stuff re the RC in my local area

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was sent a list of places i could contact in my part of wa.

  i was cautious.

  i always ask if they are jws.

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  Thank you for explaining Data Dog.

  I have been made very aware by the elders and their wives that they work in all sorts of fields.....One even worked in the place where my Emma nearly died...She is not there now..But! She went ahead a few weeks ago and contacted her old work mates to confirm it was my daughter. What sort of a crap thing is that to do..?

  Stupidly, she thought that by telling me this it would impress me in some way. It did not. I told her off and asked what current "permission" she had for enquiring into my child.

  She was caught out, she went red in the face and neck and I watched her very quietly as she and her husband were very uncomfortable...........So. I always ask whether this counsellor or that social worker or nurse is a JW, ...lately. It will not always be like this, but just for now as I have the right to get the name and the yes or no on my record too.
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  WE NEED MORE FIELD SERVICE REPORTS (Letter sent to Ecuador)

  by elkatire1980 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this letter was sent to all congregations in ecuador (south america).. the translation into english of the letter:.

  to body ofelders.

  subject: publisher who did not report field service time in the second semester of service year.. dear brothers:.

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  umbertoecho

  I thought the same thing exactly as I read it. Just read the one on Cedars blog about the Polish letter elkitar 1980. It's just worded sort of .......differently. On the other hand there could be the dual purpose of trying to find out the stance of those that don't report. I sense some anxiety within the org due to so much bad publicity...They'll love though, it's really good "persecution stuff".
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  Please, help me to show the USA that a public inquiry into child abuse...

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  .. in institutions is needed.

  it needs to be done as soon as possible.. and i need you to help me.. i need someone, maybe more than one person, to draft a template, for a letter to the white house.. it has to clearly state that the usa is falling way behind many other countries, in terms of protecting children in institutions nationwide.. it has to make this clear: .

  both australia and the uk (independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales, see here: www.csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk/about-the-inquiry ) are currently investing large amounts of time and financial resources to research the best possible policies to protect children, across all institutions, religious and nonreligious.. they are working to expose the failures of various institutions, that have not reported child abuse, or have even covered it up... why are the united states of america not doing the same?!!.

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  Oh, well no harm done then vidiot. I do see how we all get things wrong and say the wrong things...It's good you apologised. Defender of truth is sincerely on a good mission. And I say, good for him/her. It never hurts to start the ball rolling. That's largely what happened in this country. Lot's of little things became bigger and bigger, until it could not be ignored.

  I felt sorry for Unthank and some of the unkind attitudes people expressed about him. But you know what? He did contribute in a substantial way.. to events that led up to this RC. He was online and in the papers. Not bad for a one man show was it?

  Some people called him nuts, others a liar, others were just ignoring him and hoping to god he'd just go away. I think he wore himself out in the end. So, don't stop what you are doing defender. I don't think for one second that you are wasting your time doing this. Sometimes it's the path we feel we HAVE to follow for some reason or other.

  I think I'll call that Karma, or perhaps just a feeling that you are called to. So goon on you and don't stop.

  Juliette
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  Just got this reply from the U.K enquiry into Child Abuse

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i received an e-mail today, which says, in part :.

  " thank you for your email dated 19 august to the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.

  regarding your concerns about the jehovahs witness religion and your offer to provide further.

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  Don't worry Fury.....the intent is not to allow anyone get away with it....That is the thing and if it has to hashed, rehashed and beaten to death.......so be it...I don't think a child should ever be under cruel authorities ever again...Not one more if I had my way..I really think I could kill someone who hurts another child at times...Look at the tireless Barbara Anderson? How much has she seen, heard, experienced? Never once tiring of what she is supposed to do with her life..

  I feel this is good and I will feed it constant energy. I would do this for others too. Not just a JW abused child...any child.
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  Just got this reply from the U.K enquiry into Child Abuse

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i received an e-mail today, which says, in part :.

  " thank you for your email dated 19 august to the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.

  regarding your concerns about the jehovahs witness religion and your offer to provide further.

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  umbertoecho

  Phizzy, good one! I have written too and they say they will be back by next week...Excellent. Are you from England? That is where I was born in the West of England in Bristol
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  feeling of hopelessness and fear

  by 060702015 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you have feelings of hopelessness and fear for not having a religion?.

  do you envy happy jehovah witnesses and living their lives carefree?.

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  umbertoecho

  Good images Outlaw. You find some terrific pictures that tell the story...A strange gift and an enviable one....
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  interesting stuff re the RC in my local area

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was sent a list of places i could contact in my part of wa.

  i was cautious.

  i always ask if they are jws.

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  umbertoecho

  Oh it's Mike, or is it Michael?. Nice name and pleased to meet you. Juliette with joy.