Posts by umbertoecho

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Geoffrey Jackson. Seems he will be compelled to front up.

by umbertoecho in

pray for brother jackson of the governing body!.

in todays news from australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, justice mcclellan from the australian royal commission on child sex abuse will officially summon brother geoffrey jackson to the stand after all.. ..... the commission was due to conclude its hearings into the jehovahs witnesses on wednesday but justice mcclellan said he will now call geoffrey jackson, a senior member of the churchs governing body in new york who is currently in australia, to appear next week.. .

source.

umbertoecho

http://wiki.jw-archive.org/Australian+Royal+Commission+into+Child+Abuse

https://www.tumblr.com/search/geoffrey%20jackson

This is the most recent link I could find. The news seems to be the latest to date.

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Geoffrey Jackson. Seems he will be compelled to front up.

by umbertoecho in

pray for brother jackson of the governing body!.

in todays news from australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, justice mcclellan from the australian royal commission on child sex abuse will officially summon brother geoffrey jackson to the stand after all.. ..... the commission was due to conclude its hearings into the jehovahs witnesses on wednesday but justice mcclellan said he will now call geoffrey jackson, a senior member of the churchs governing body in new york who is currently in australia, to appear next week.. .

source.

umbertoecho

Pray for Brother Jackson of the Governing Body!

In today’s news from Australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, Justice McClellan from the Australian Royal Commission on Child Sex Abuse will officially summon brother Geoffrey Jackson to the stand after all.

“ ….. The commission was due to conclude its hearings into the Jehovah’s Witnesses on Wednesday but Justice McClellan said he will now call Geoffrey Jackson, a senior member of the church’s governing body in New York who is currently in Australia, to appear next week.”

Source

Here is where the Prosecutor talks to the Justice regarding Brother Jackson’s

Hello people. I have just found this on a pro JW site. I don't know if it's completely true yet. But I was told on Friday by one of the staff helping me. " Oh, don't worry about him, we are working on that." I had asked her if he was going to be allowed to beg off appearing before the RC

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Angus Stewart calls the JW religion a captive organization

by oppostate in

if you watched the questioning of terrence o'brien by angus stewart at day 7 part 3 on youtube--thanks so much for uploading these videos--you'll see that mr. stewart puts quite clearly to brother o'brien that the jw 0rganization is a "captive organization".. he makes this reference regarding the practice of da/df'ing and shunning, which he mentions is the one thing that makes ex-jw's the most angry.

because insisting on shunning ex-members causes psychological trauma and separates people from their family, friends and their community of support; therefore, they are held captive by the organization if they don't want to lose those most dear to them.. i believe angus stewart is to be commended for seeing clearly what the wt/jw religion is truly like in practice, and it isn't pretty.. the term "captive organization" is usually used in finance to mean a business front, a legal veil that shields the parent company from liability and having to make big insurance payouts.

for example if the australian branch gets sued and loses, the "wt australia" corporation will pay the amount awarded by the judge to the complainant.

umbertoecho

O Brian for WT said that disassociated ones had a much easier way to re-enter this religion. That is crap. My sister disassociated in a very quiet manner. Not making a fuss, not talking about her feelings.........She just stopped turning up to meetings.

If she goes back to the meetings she may go once, twice or three times and recieve a good old love bomb. Then the elders will take her aside to question her lifestyle since she has been absent without leave. They will know a lot from their conversations with her own still very much in, children. Then, knowing she had a blood transfusion and has a boyfriend..........she WILL be disfellowshipped....And that is that!!!

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JW.ORG on “uncleanness” that displeases God

by opusdei1972 in

i have been recently reading in jw.org the following absurdities on their black and white world: .

do jehovahs witnesses have rules about dating?......christians who want to marry are commanded to choose only a fellow believer.

(1 corinthians 7:39) jehovahs witnesses view this command as referring not merely to a person who respects our beliefs but to one who shares and practices those beliefs as a baptized witness.

umbertoecho

But, they need more children to indoctrinate from the cradle....so perhaps they should suggest a really clean way to do it....Like those in the Victorian Era.......a sheet between the man and wife, with a hole in it.

One of the most repressed era's of our time and one of the most perverted too.

I don't know why Watchtower hasn't thought of this one.

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Pedophiles in Good Standing

by UnDisfellowshipped in

here is a very good quote you can use against the society from a watchtower publication that everyone knows: .

you can live forever in paradise on earth book, pages 187-188: .

"if church members who gamble, get drunk or do other wrongs are permitted to remain in good standing within their church, what does this show?

umbertoecho

Could this have had something to do with everybody being moved to a Congregation Book study, instead of meeting in homes?

The practice here in Western Australia is that there is no book study ever conducted in private homes. They are done as a part of the mid week meeting. I am not sure when this was started, but in the last 6 years that I was on and off ....attending. All book studies were held this way. It was never explained to me why this change had been made, and I never thought too much about it...........but now I do...

Pre preaching meetings, are held at some private homes and some at the congregation.

Thank you for that informative post. I will copy and save that one for my own use.

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Watchtower sued for Racketeering in California

by under the radar in

a little birdie informed me that a lawsuit against the watchtower bible & tract society, its legal department, and several individuals (perhaps lawyers in the legal department) has been filed in the superior court of the state of california, county of los angeles for, wait for it.... racketeering!.

that's right, folks, you heard it here first.

i have no other information, other than the case was stamped "aug 07 2015" and the docket number appears to be bc590675.

umbertoecho

This is it!!! The Great Tribulation has started. All witnesses through the narrow and cramped door!!!!!!!

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shunning verses victamization

by Sabin in

i know i`ve put this out there before but i want to put it in a different context & see what you think.

i`ve shunned my parents for 20 years (farther, step-mother) because they victimized me every day of my life as a child, believe me when i tell you that writing this , is unbelievable hard, it is making me shake & cry to be pulling up the memories.

all of what happened i could have forgiven, but one thing.

umbertoecho

I would say that they are tearing peoples lives apart. Now that you have put it in this context.

Then again. I have never agreed with shunning, as I am one of those "shunned" by the WTBTS standards. And we all know they have put a theocratic, spiritual spin on it.

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royal commission so far

by zeb in

before another day goes past please, summarize the outcome in dot points of the royal commission so far.

for me in no order;.

that the wt considers sex crimes against children of little importance.

umbertoecho

Marvin, that is a very frightening scale of abuse when presented this way. And these are so called known figures..... it is likely far greater....

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royal commission so far

by zeb in

before another day goes past please, summarize the outcome in dot points of the royal commission so far.

for me in no order;.

that the wt considers sex crimes against children of little importance.

umbertoecho

I always knew about "Theocratic Warfare". That is the exact term I heard only three years ago when having a progressive study toward baptism. Of course in the third stage of questions, it was not put to me in such a blunt manner. Yet. When I asked outright of the elders who were conducting my last schedule of questions......" Is this what you call TW in terms of where my loyalty will lie?" The answer was a definitive yes!

I have my baptism question book here next to me and will look it up; try to see how this part of questioning was presented to me.

The way the elders used it was one of those classic and misleading ways. It showed no courage really, merely a desire to escape unscathed in every way.

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Adjourned...........not over.

by umbertoecho in

jehovahs witnesses hearing adjourned.

6 august, 2015. .

the hearing into the jehovahs witnesses has adjourned until further notice.case study 29 into the jehovahs witnessescommenced on monday 27 july 2015, inquiring into jehovah's witnesses and watchtower bible and tract society of australia ltd.further information regarding this public hearing will be announced in due course.. .

umbertoecho

This was a good move under the radar.

The higher up people are in this religion, the less inclined they are to reveal a damned thing. Information has been hidden and twisted right out of proportion. Justice McClellan is good in that he "..finds information out and is absolutely unashamed to let people know that he has been enlightened. That he is being informed". This is why I really do like him and always have.

Mr Stewart and he, work well together, almost like reading each others minds or subtle nuances. Then there are those behind the scenes who are faceless but very dedicated. I have never had one instance of being ignored, disbelieved, minimized or left feeling alone. I do hope that you people don't think this was a one hit wonder or a toothless tiger. It is not so. It may die down as in...."not in the papers" for a time, but this happens. When you heard him talk about two years time or more. That WT lawyer laughed. I said to the commission person who called me yesterday that the reason he laughed was very likely......" because that man is a Jehovah's Witness, and they expect Armageddon to wipe all of us out before then". She was quite stunned at this angle, this incredibly JW angle of viewing the entire world. She said........" I can hardly believe the things I am learning about this religion. Things we were not made aware of..."