JW Organization On Autopilot

by AlanF 82 Replies latest jw friends

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  AlanF

  These days it's pretty clear that the JW organization is running on autopilot. Charles Taze
  Russell, Joe Booze Rutherford, Nathan Knorr and Freddie Franz all had a certain amount of vision
  for where the JW organization should go. They ruled as despots and marked the organization with
  their own peculiar personalities.

  Now that these luminaries are gone, the JWs are run by committee. Things have deteriorated in
  the usual way they do after the founders and early leaders of most any organization die off.
  The organization falls into the hands of bureaucrats who are mainly concerned with keeping the
  organization going so as to keep their place in it. The founder's goals are given lip service
  but play little part in the real activities. This applies equally to political, economic and
  religious organizations.

  The leaders of today's JW organization have been thoroughly trained as yes-men. They had to
  be yes-men in order to survive the sifting out that Rutherford, Knorr and Franz performed.
  They brooked no dissent, and demanded absolute loyalty to their persons. Often these strong
  leaders would order their underlings to perform tasks that the underlings didn't agree with,
  or even knew were wrong. Only those who could sear their consciences continually and not be
  bothered could survive that process.

  For example, Rutherford fell heavily into alcoholism after his prediction for "the end" in 1925
  failed and he was massively embarrassed. He took a mistress, and made her his cook so that
  they could travel together. By 1929 Rutherford was so out of control that it appears that his
  underlings had the San Diego mansion Beth Sarim built for him so as to get him out of the way
  for half the year. There is even evidence that Rutherford died, not from the rectal cancer he
  would have died from anyway, but from injuries suffered in a fall down a flight of stairs in a
  drunken stupor in Beth Sarim. His underlings like Knorr and Franz certainly had to know what was
  going on, but because they thought that old Joe was "God's anointed", they made great allowances.
  More bluntly, they saw Rutherford constantly drunk, committing adultery, abusing most everyone
  around him, and generally causing havoc. But because they felt that God had put Rutherford in
  his place, they would not do anything to oust this piece of scum from office. Apparently they
  thought of Rutherford as being like the unfaithful King Saul, and refused to "touch Jehovah's
  anointed".

  Think what kind of personality a couple of decades of being under a man like Rutherford would
  create. It is one that can see badness and abuse going on all around, and yet not be bothered.
  It is one of blind, amoral loyalty. It is the same spirit that allowed Adolph Hitler and so
  many other despots to continue their wicked ways. When Knorr and Franz came into power in 1942
  after Rutherford died, they made many changes to the JW organization. They cleaned up a lot of
  the crap Rutherford had left. However, they demanded the same kind of blind loyalty that the
  old boy had demanded.

  The current Governing Body members are all in their positions as a result of showing such
  conscienceless loyalty for many decades. The same goes for the present assistants to the GB,
  and pretty much everyone in a leadership position. In other words, they're not leaders because
  of showing the qualities of a good leader, but because of being good, conscienceless followers.
  Having taken such a mental set, they don't know what to do in new situations except try to
  apply old policies and ideas in ways that will patch up the new problems. They've become old
  wineskins.

  Eventually this mindset leads to organizational stagnation. That is certainly where the JW
  organization is now. Old ideas are gradually being abandoned as solid facts prove them wrong,
  and new ones point the organization continually towards the mainstream of Christianity.
  Watchtower articles consist almost entirely of recycled material. Decisions are made largely
  to avoid problems caused by past bad policies. The organization is simply lurching down a path
  that it happened to fall onto when Knorr and Franz lost power in the 1970s.

  A good description of how organizations generally fall into decay is found in the article
  "Imprisoned Ideas" by W. P. Brown. It can be found here:
  http://www.star.net/People/~docbob/imprison.htm
  I think it gives a nearly perfect description of how the Watchtower organization has evolved and
  will continue to evolve. It is certainly in what Brown describes as the third, degenerate stage
  where the organization is on autopilot because anyone with vision has been weeded out.

  AlanF
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  Norm

  Hi Alan,

  An excellent description of the WTS.
  Very well said.

  Norm.
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  You Know

  Eventually this mindset leads to organizational stagnation. That is certainly where the JW organization is now.

  Aside from all that rubbish and slander about Rutherford, it is obvious that God's organization has become stagnant. The prophecy of Isaiah the 28th chapter foretold that such a thing would occur. Verse one describes the organization as "the fading blosom of its decoration of beauty." In other words the bloom is off the rose, as the saying goes. I think that is an exacting portrait that God had long ago painted that reveals the condition of his people in the days immediately before his judgment is leveled against us. And, as the prophecy goes on to relate, it is Jehovah's determination to discard the physical apparatus of the organization by having it annihilated by earthly forces, so that Jehovah himself becomes "a crown of decoration and as a garland of beauty to the ones remaining over of his people..." That is basically the way the Almighty dealt with Israel, in that after the nation produced Christ it was discarded and only a faithful remnant made the transition into the new organization of spiritual Israel.

  So, it stands to reason that once the good news of the kingdom is preached to Jehovah's satisfaction, in advance of Christ's arrival, that once Jesus does arrive and all hell breaks loose, as the saying goes, then the organizational structure that was built to sponser that work and equip the small army of preachers will become expendable. Indeed, as I have pointed out many times over the years, the Watchtower can and will go out of the printing business at the earliest erupting crisis that collapses the financial system. That singular event that brings the present system down in a heap will signal the commencement of the judgment phase of God's purpose. By the time the judgment concludes Jehovah's organization will be reduced to a remnant who truly have faith in God and Christ. Those who are faithless and mere followers of men, "Watchtowerites" as I have dubbed them, will be winnowed out during the holocaust, when Jehovah rocks the heavens and the earth one last time.

  ROCK ON! / You Know
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  AlanF

  No slander about old Boozy, Booby. Old Joe were a very bad boy. Full documentation will come out in several books during the next couple of years.

  I like your term "Watchtowerite". It certainly describes at least 90% of JWs. Of the remainder, at least 90% know perfectly well that the entire Watchtower view of the world is nonsense, and they have no illusions that God -- if they believe in a God at all -- has ever had anything to do with the Watchtower organization. Of the remainder 90% of them are lunatics like yourself. So if there's to be a "remnant", it'll be vanishingly small. Not a very good record for more than a century of preaching.

  Of course, a lot of the problem with JWs is that their preaching has nothing to do with anything the Bible actually says. They preach about a kingdom that they once claimed came to power in 1874. When it became evident that that was nonsense, they figured out some more nonsense and began preaching about an invisible, do-nothing kingdom supposedly established in 1914. What was the evidence for the existence of that kingdom? Why, the fact that they were preaching about it, of course! As Carl Sagan once remarked, it's remarkable that a religion so transparently dishonest has any adherents at all, but that's a measure of the gullibility of the ultra-religious mind.

  As for your application of Isaiah to today, it has as little value as applying the notion that in "just a little while longer the wicked one will be no more". "A little while" is quite meaningless after 2500 years of waiting. And of course, we also have the example of all those failed predictions and applications of prophecy that you and the Society are famous for.

  But religions are tough, and so are lunatics. I have no doubt that 20 years from now you'll still be anticipating that "the end" will come the next year. Likely by that time, though, the Society will have been chastened and quit trying to interpret prophecy. By then, all of the old Rutherford-trained generation will be dead, and all that will be left will be the extremely old yes-men who no longer will know who to cow-tow to.

  AlanF
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  Fredhall

  AlanF,

  You said that full documentation will come out in several books during the next couple of years regarding Rutherford being a drunkard. I have a little problem with this. That is, all the information regarding Rutherford in the past and now are false?

  Plus, people accused Jesus as a drunkard and down to this date (2000 years later) they still haven't prove nothing on it. And now you going to tell us that within 60 years of Judge Rutherford death that you apostates are now going to prove of his drunkness?

  LOL!!!!
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  JAVA

  You Know's autopilot remarks were:

  So, it stands to reason that once the good news of the kingdom is preached to Jehovah's satisfaction, in advance of Christ's arrival, that once Jesus does arrive and all hell breaks loose

  JAVA's autopilot response is:

  
  

  1874, 1914, 1918,
  Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1920),
  1925, 1975, before end of 20th century,
  read The Watchtower for upcoming dates,
  and see You Know's next post when "all hell breaks loose."

  Don’t miss Jehovah Will Murder Billions

  
  now playing at a Kingdom Hall near you!
  
  

  (Above scene from Watchtower Society of God having humans murdered.)
  What Does God Require of Us? Lesson 5 "What Is God's Purpose for the Earth?"

  
  
  

  Watchtower Society WARNING: Not joining our
  sect could cause sudden DEATH!
  Have a nice day.
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  You Know

  No slander about old Boozy, Booby. Old Joe were a very bad boy. Full documentation will come out in several books
  during the next couple of years.

  Yeah, right, sure, whatever. No doubt the reason the slanderers start speading that male bovine manure so thickly years after the man died is because the people that knew him best are all long gone, so anyone can basically make up anything they want. Like I said, if he would have really been that notorious, as you say, his enemies would not have waited for over a half century. They would have exposed him long ago.

  I like your term "Watchtowerite". It certainly describes at least 90% of JWs.

  Yes, it does describe those who have a religion but not a living faith. The thing is though, that at the time of Christ, his early disciples were very much under the influence of the Pharisees. In other words: they had a religion that had to be discarded. They remained more or less under that influence all during Jesus' time on earth. But, when he was suddenly taken from them, much to their surprise, it was a wake-up call for them, which they responded to. So too, when things blow up for us, sure it will come as a shock to Jehovah's Witnesses, but those who are devoted to God will regather themselves, taking stock of the situation, and then respond accordingly in the new environment of the judgment period.

  Of course, a lot of the problem with JWs is that their preaching has nothing to do with anything the Bible actually says. They preach about a kingdom that they once claimed came to power in 1874. When it became evident that that was nonsense, they figured out some more nonsense and began preaching about an invisible, do-nothing kingdom supposedly established in 1914.

  That was also the exact situation the apostles found themselves in. They had imagined that the kingdom was going to be an earthly re-establishment of David's throne in Jerusalem. They were wrong. Apparently, even when they went out to preach that the kingdom had drawn near, they had that misconception that Jesus let remain until afeter his resurrection, when he finally enlightened them. They basically had to throw out everything they belived about the kingdom and start over. We will similarly jettison all the errors and false expectations we have been saddled with for so long. But, that will obviously be the means that Jehovah uses to sift the chaff out of the organization in preparation for his final blessing upon his faithful ones.

  As for your application of Isaiah to today, it has as little value as applying the notion that in "just a little while longer the wicked one will be no more".

  You are the one that noted the stagnation of the organization. I pointed to a prophecy that foretold that very condition. That is extremely relevant. The fact is the kingdom of God has really overtaken you without you quite realizing it---yet. That part will take a little while longer. LOL / You Know
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  Duncan

  I just don't get it.

  Fred Hall?

  Lower case letters? Paragraphs??

  Sensibly written, 20-word sentences????

  PLUS HE DONT SOUND NO MORE LIKE WHAT HE USE TO BEFOR!

  Wass gibt's?

  Duncan
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  68storm

  To: Raiman Freddy & Lunatic Bobby

  I suppose thst all of the truckloads of liquor that were delivered to Booze Rutherford weren't for his consuption? Oh! I know! He used them as Xmas gifts for his non jw friends and neighbours right?

  Ah! yeah! that's the ticket. I suppose you both were married to Morgan Fairchild also.

  68storm
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  AlanF

  What on earth are you talking about, Fridolin? It has been public information since the Olin Moyle trial that Rutherford was a drunk. Moyle accused him of that, among other things, and Rutherford never denied it. He simply tried to shut Moyle up and made a number of false accusations against Moyle. Moyle brought a lawsuit against Rutherford and the Society around 1940 for slander, and he won a $15,000 judgment against the Society, but a year after Rutherford died. Moyle's accusations therefore stood the test of a court case. And of course, the former Canadian branch manager Walter Salter wrote a letter complaining that Rutherford had him ship many cases of Canadian whiskey to Brooklyn for Rutherford's use. This was during the time of American Prohibition, and so Rutherford was guilty of breaking Caesar's laws with regard to something that had nothing to do with religious principle.

  Finally there is the testimony of various people who have largely remained quiet until now. People who were in Bethel when Rutherford was alive, and people who discussed Rutherford's drunkenness with Bethelites who are now dead. For example, there was one Arthur Worsley, who died in the early 1990s. Worsley was interviewed by a friend of mine shortly before his death concerning his recollection of the Rutherford years. Worsley had been called as a witness for Rutherford at the Moyle trial, and he testified that Rutherford was not a drunk and did not do any of the things that Moyle accused him of. The interviewer asked Worsley if his testimony had been true, and he admitted that it wasn't, and that all of Moyle's accusations were true. Why then, did he lie? He said that he had no place to go outside of Bethel, and so he lied in order to keep his position. Same goes for the other liars who testified for Rutherford.

  Much material like the above will be published in due time.

  As for your comments, Bobby, there are still Bethelites alive who knew Rutherford personally and could comment about his drunkenness. For example, GB member Albert Schroeder entered Bethel around 1933 and certainly knew him well. He's about 90 today, but his mind is still pretty good. Why don't you call him up and ask him about Rutherford?

  Rutherford certainly started a tradition of drinking in Bethel. The legacy is well known to all who lived there since Rutherford's time. Bethelites tend not to talk about the fact that a lot of Bethelites today are heavy drinkers, but the reason for that is obvious. Anyone who claims this isn't a big, big problem there simply doesn't know what he's talking about.

  As for exposing Rutherford long ago, see above. The fact that you don't read about it in WTS publications is obviously irrelevant.

  As for the rest of your comments, they're dealt with very simply: The only evidence that the JW organization has anything to do with God is its own claim. That's all. Thus, all of your scenarios are as imaginary as were Rutherford's claims that the ancient worthies would return in 1925, and as have been your claims that "the end" would be upon us in 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001 -- claims you'll no doubt continue to make unless your mind gets healed.

  AlanF