An experiment in self-empowerment - Any Volunteers?

by Frannie Banannie 63 Replies latest jw friends

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  Frannie Banannie

  Sincerely,
  

  District Overbeer

  Thank you SO much, Valis. I'm optin' to disregard ppl that appear to wanna "pee on a parade," yanno. It's just gonna be fun to see how the experiment turns out. And it SURE doesn't hurt anyone to try it, eh?

  Well... I have been thinking about this... and still feel that it is more a 'tonal' related phenomena, rather than a 'word' related one.

  I even Googled the word Eidophone today, and one site seems to back up this theory - as one lady was trying to get the correct tones correct to re-display a 'daisy'. She finally did. (It had nothing to do with using a specific word - but rather - getting the tone of the words correct.)

  Sooooo... interesting.

  Goes back to my analogy of speaking sweetly to a cat. Same principle.

  Or the gal at work who speaks in that 'sweet' voice. It's the tone of her voice - not the words she utters.

  This would also make it language-independent - as one fella earlier in this thread voiced his concern about - since some words sound similar in different languages - and can mean radically different things.

  Same with newborn infants. They don't understand words - it's the 'tone' of those words.

  Even in one of your examples - you mention that the 'type' of music (I.E. classical) has a positive affect on plants. Yes... I have heard this before. There are no words though in that type of music. (Here again... tones.)

  Good experiment though.

  I still believe that just a good positive mental attitude would have similar results.

  *wide grin*

  Jim TX

  P.S. Sometimes I think I think too much. Don't ya think?

  You very well could be correct, Jim TX. Even tho I do have a friend that plays Ozzie for her plants and they're thrivin', too.

  Anyway, Jim Tx, I'd feel really silly tellin' someone to go commit an impossible act with themselves in a sugary voice...LOL!

  I would really love to see one of those eidophone things. I'm with you Frannie, I NEED to start being more positive. I posted affirmations on yellow post-its all over my house a few years ago, and it does help loads. Although it's embarrassing when people come over and find a message stuck on your toilet lid saying things like "I'm okay just the way I am". Especially in England where they just DON'T do that kind of thing.

  Thanks, MyAuntFanny! Me, too! I'd like to read the scriptures under one of those Eidophones and "check 'em out" that way, too. LOL @ the toilet notes!

  Frannie
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  bem

  I smugly have been thinking about the people who NEED to try this experiment for those of us who put up with them!!! Phew....now.....If......I....can ......just.......keep .........my....hands..away from ..........the .......e-mail...to button! kidding friends. bttt
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  Valis

  Frannie...I'm not peeing on anyone's parade. If you are going to make statments of fact then someone is bound to show you otherwise when they aren't true. I didn't say one thing was wrong with you trying such an experiment. Personally I think the woman was a crackpot and would have most enjoyed either an air bath or a nice steaming bowl of miracle wheat, but that's just me. Call me skeptical of esoteric claims that can't be proven, but for art's sake I think it is an interesting idea.

  Sincerely,

  District Overbeer
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  Frannie Banannie

  Frannie...I'm not peeing on anyone's parade. If you are going to make statments of fact then someone is bound to show you otherwise when they aren't true. I didn't say one thing was wrong with you trying such an experiment. Personally I think the woman was a crackpot and would have most enjoyed either an air bath or a nice steaming bowl of miracle wheat, but that's just me. Call me skeptical of esoteric claims that can't be proven, but for art's sake I think it is an interesting idea.

  Oh, Valis, I'm so sorry that you mistook my response to your most informative and very supportive post on this thread. I was sincerely thanking you for that posted info, cher!(& noogies) It was someone else who seemed to be "peein' on this parade", Valis, and I agree with you, it's a fun and interesting idea and experiment.

  You've been nothing but supportive, Valis, and I appreciate all you do here on JWD, cher!

  Hugs,

  Frannie
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  bem

  Oh, Valis, I'm so sorry that you mistook my response to your most informative and very supportive post on this thread. I was sincerely thanking you for that posted info, cher!(& noogies) It was someone else who seemed to be "peein' on this parade", Valis, and I agree with you, it's a fun and interesting idea and experiment.

  You've been nothing but supportive, Valis, and I appreciate all you do here on JWD, cher!

  Hugs,

  Frannie

  This isa noneya <noneomybuisness> statement from me!

  But Frannie and Valis I understood how you both ment the responses you were making I concur with Frannie to Valis' ie the quote. So no for bem please! she cries easily!
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  Frannie Banannie

  Frannie and Valis I understood how you both ment the responses you were making I concur with Frannie to Valis' ie the quote. So no for bem please! she cries easily!

  Hugs 'n smoochies, (((bem)))

  Within the last 30 years an instrument called an Eidophone was discovered.

  Discovered? Surely you mean "invented"?

  It consists of a tightly stretched drum surface, covered evenly with a very moldable, pastelike substance.

  What is this substance? Or will any "moldable, pastelike substance" do?

  It's been repeatedly observed and carefully recorded that plants will grow faster, healthier and taller when the "music of the masters" is played near them continually, symphonies and the like. When loud and discordant rock music is played near them continually, the plants are sickly, grow very slowly and their growth is stunted, the full height two to four inches shorter than the plants that were lullabyed by the harmonious cords of symphonic music.

  Can you provide sources for this claim please?

  There's a reason for this little known phenomenon of nature. The singing of the birds sets up a particular sound vibration that promotes the growth of young leaves of trees, plants and flowers, so the birdsong is fairly constant all day long in the spring while the new growth is occurring.

  That seems unlikely, from what I know of biology. Can you provide sources for this claim as well please?

  The times of the changeover are heralded by the birds; are actually stimulated by the birdsong, but the sterile rules of biology recognize only the synchronicity of it, typically ignoring the clear evidence of cause and effect, unable to explain any other reason for nature's precise timing of the seasonal and daily fluctuations of birdsong. In winter months, of course, birds fly south to where other greenery needs the growth signals of the sound of their singing.

  This is patently absurd. These phenomena are all easily explained by real science. Please provide strong supporting evidence for your extraordinary claims.

  Considering that the experiment with the Eidophone could be viably translated into our daily lives, why not begin on a certain day and time to eschew everything negative from our speech and tone of voice and written words and attempt to vocalize and write only positive thoughts and ideas.....and see if and how it affects our own personal environment, whether positively or perhaps, not at all?

  What would count as a hit, and what as a miss? How could the effects be distinguished from those of simply being nice to people?

  I've wanted to try this for myself, but was hesitant because I'd rather have input from others for comparison, so any results couldn't be considered just my imagination or my own thinking that affected the outcome.

  Well, at least that's the beginning of the scientific method. You obviously need to define your terms and have clear rules about what would count as a positive or negative result.

  If you're correct, Frannie, this discovery would have massive and lasting impacts in the areas of physics and biology. Almost everything we know about the universe would have to be rewritten. I'm wondering why, if this instrument has been around for thirty years, it hasn't already done so.

  Funkyderek, I apologize. I am really short on time this week, as I'm working a string of 12's (12 hr shifts) for 7 days in a row, BUT.....as soon as I get the time, I'll attempt to address your legitimate questions about this idea.

  Frannie
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  Country Girl

  It is very true that the birds are very loud in the morning and right before dusk. However, mine are parrots and they're indoors, so their schedule is a bit modified. They do the microwave noises, the phone, the cats, they've already picked up the dog which I've only had for one day, they call the horses out in the pasture, they cuss when my JW relatives come around... it pretty much goes on all day. But I do notice that they bob and whistle when I play my electric piano for them, or Tejano music. They are Texans, you know.

  I think there is something to this. Modal analysis: http://www.stetson.edu/departments/physics/vholography/theory.htm

  Pix of chladni plates:

  http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Acoustics/Chladni/Chladni.html

  I've read about the Eidophone before, and looked at some designs. Velly intellestink.

  Country Girl
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  Country Girl

  Another thought:

  Anger, fear and frustration often produce the beautiful music, works of literature, and art that we see around us. Sometimes negativity is so intense that beauty MUST be created from it for preservation of one's soul. Perhaps there is a need, in some respect, for a certain level of negativity.

  Country Girl
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  bem

  BTTT
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  Erich

  funkyderek wrote

  The times of the changeover are heralded by the birds; are actually stimulated by the birdsong, but the sterile rules of biology recognize only the synchronicity of it, typically ignoring the clear evidence of cause and effect, unable to explain any other reason for nature's precise timing of the seasonal and daily fluctuations of birdsong. In winter months, of course, birds fly south to where other greenery needs the growth signals of the sound of their singing.

  This is patently absurd. These phenomena are all easily explained by real science. Please provide strong supporting evidence for your extraordinary claims.

  Hello. I am busy in new signal analyzing theories and in science dealing with that matter. Can you please tell me how the present biology science is EXPLAINING these phenomena... I am curious about... All what I know is that they can not !

  Otherwise, there is a scientific way to explain it. But on new bases that differs totally from conventional wisdom you are learning on schools and universities. My opinion is, that plants have a type of "sensorium" (sensory receptoric) which is able to sense light, sounds, magnetic fields and perhaps many more. Same as in other beings (animals and so on). There is strong evidence that i am right.

  E.