WTS letter to Newlywed (Explicit Content)

by 4JWY 62 Replies latest members adult

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  Fleur

  oh this is just great:

  We do not feel that we can accept the responsibility for telling you that you should just submit to his demands, but if you felt that you had no alternative but to submit, letting him take the re sponsibility as your head for his conduct, then that would be a decision for you to make and one for which you would bear respon sibility before Jehovah. The congregation elders would not feel a need to discuss the matter with you, unless you began to dis cuss with others in the congregation what you had decided to do and this became an issue.

  what i get from this is, we can't tell you not to submit (sounds like classic cya to me, if a man hurt a woman because she wouldn't give in, then she could say 'the church told me not to do it') but if you do 'give in' *vomit* to the demands and requirements of your mate (nevermind what will happen if you don't) its your decision and one for which YOU (bold type mine) would bear responsibility before jehovah.

  so, even those of us whose mates DID coerce us into doing stuff we didn't want to do after years of trying to fight it (and them) off could rest assured that our own guilt complexes weren't enough, that we were indeed responsible before GOD for it? not only did our mates degrade us, the organization completed it! those unforgivable bastards!

  ugh i am so glad to be out so glad to be out so glad to be OUT!!!

  and so glad to no longer be married to a man who thought 'whore' was an appropriate way to refer to his wife. what a loving 'head of the household.'

  fleur
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  XQsThaiPoes

  Is it just me or does the watchtower make sure to define it as illicit sex every time. which means illegal sex. Is the oversite or jws don't know what illict means. BTW they had an article on what happens in sodomy becomes legal in you state. It is interested but be dated it many be old light.
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  observador

  With all this respect and "clear conscience" talk I won't be able to satisfy myself and specially not my sweety.

  while they have due respect for one another's feelings and desire to please God.

  They ought to be conducting these intimate matters in such a way as to have a clear conscience before Jehovah.

  Neither mate should do anything that would cause the other to be trou bled.

  Darling, can we say a prayer before and after we do it?
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  bem

  Thanks for helping me find this post chat folks. Makes me shudder to think of a young innocent reading this stuff and feeling guilty.

  Corvin I was thinking the same thing about elds. wives. made me laugh.
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  4JWY

  ....Many of you are wading through the verbiage I see - it's been enlightening to hear your comments too.

  Best regards,

  4JWY
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  jukief

  Obviously written by some old fart who's never had a blow job in his life but wishes he had! Sour grapes!! LOL
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  Insomniac

  Wow. I've heard about this kind of counsel being given to newlyweds. Can you imagine, if the bride and groom were both virgins who took all of this stuff at face value, how badly it could screw up the quality of their marriage? They'd have such a guilt complex, they'd stop sleeping tgether as soon as they'd produced a couple of kids!

  It irks me, that the WTBTS tries so hard to make people believe that sex is evil and unclean, and that a committed couple should restrict themselves to just one activity to express their love. What a bunch of sexually repressed prudes they are! I'm soooo happy I didn't marry in the "truth", I never could have dealt with those kinds of restrictions in my marriage.
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  myauntfanny

  If your husband should insist on practices such as oral copulation, despite your at-

  tempts to reason with him and your appeals to respect your conscience, we would be unable to advise you specifically as to how you should cope with this development in your marriage. We do not feel that we can accept the responsibility for telling you that you should just submit to his demands, but if you felt that you had no alternative but to submit, letting him take the responsibility as your head for his conduct, then that would be a decision for you to make and one for which you would bear responsibility before Jehovah. The congregation elders would not feel a need to discuss the matter with you, unless you began to discuss with others in the congregation what you had decided to do and this became an issue.

  Well, there is a possibility that this goes the other way, and it?s about men who insist on going down on their wives, and please don?t noise it around the congregation cuz ALL the women will be wanting it. But probably not.
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  Left_Field

  4JWY, after you gave your hubby that explicit content, did he offer you his solution?

  LF
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  Elsewhere

  Lets see... they open by saying that it is not their place or desire to tell people what to do in the marriage bed....

  Then they procede to write five pages of rules. Oh, but you don't *have* to follow them so long as you don't suddenly get a guilt trip because of the content of the letter. Oh, and one more thing... what you decide is none of the elder's business unless, of course, you tell anyone what you are doing... then it becomes the business of the elders.

  Through the whole letter I kept wondering, what exactly do they mean by the lessons of nature???????