Jehovah’s Witness who posted criticisms on Reddit can remain anonymous, judge rules

by Tameria2001 95 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • The Fall Guy
    The Fall Guy

    The court ruling - "....except for identification to lawyers for the religion’s Watchtower publication, which claims the posting violated its copyright." LOL.

    The org knows the saying about "skinning cats."

    Some reckon that Darkspilver is a U.K. Bethelite. If he is, Darkspilver can fully expect to be "re-assigned" in the near future, i.e. made redundant at Bethel and booted out to a congregation to become a Regular Pioneer. The elders won't be given any written info about him, but you can bet their C.O. will privately "caution" them not to make him an "appointed man" any time before Armageddon.

    No disfellowshipping - just exiled to permanent trolley-land. Totally neutralized.

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    Unless he tells them how he really feels about them; then he'll be df'd.

  • joe134cd
    joe134cd

    I thought Vincent Toole had his registration removed by the Australian law society due to serious misconduct (e.g not reporting child abuse), after appearing in the ARC.

  • ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara
    ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

    they can say/ judge can rule but what really happens to Darkspilver once his ID is known will be poles aprt.Remains to be seen

    Zing

  • blondie
    blondie

    Good question, what will happen to him if the court system reveals his identity to someone on the WTS team. Didn't someone explain that to the judge adequately?

  • Corney
    Corney

    The order: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.336935/gov.uscourts.cand.336935.18.0.pdf

    In balancing the harms, while considering the fair use defense, the Court finds that they tip sharply in Darkspilver’s favor. However, the Court notes that Darkspilver’s concerns stem largely out of his fear that those in his congregation will discover his identity and shun him. If Reddit reveals Darkspilver’s identity to Watch Tower’s counsel, under an “attorney’s eyes only” restriction, then any harm to Darkspilver would be alleviated. This restriction would enable Watch Tower to pursue its copyright claim without causing harm to Darkspilver.

    Therefore, the Court HEREBY GRANTS IN PART and DENIES IN PART Darkspilver’s motion to quash. Reddit shall respond to the subpoena and provide the requested information to Watch Tower’s counsel. However, only attorneys of record in this matter may obtain information about Darkspilver’s identity. Watch Tower’s attorneys of record shall not to disclose Darkspilver’s identity to anyone else without approval in a Court Order from this Court. For example, Watch Tower’s attorneys of record may not disclose Darkspilver’s identity even to its client, staff, or expert witnesses without approval in a Court Order from this Court.*3

    If Watch Tower elects to file a lawsuit against Darkspilver, the Court directs Watch Tower to seek to file the suit under his pseudonym and to keep his actual identity under seal, for attorney’s eyes only. Moreover, Watch Tower is admonished that any violation of this Order will be sanctioned and that this Court retains jurisdiction over any potential violation of this Order.

    *3 Watch Tower claimed at the hearing that it plans to disclose Darkspilver’s identity to its forensic experts so that Watch Tower can determine how Darkspilver obtained confidential information in the chart and prevent further disclosure of that confidential information. This purpose is not related at all to a copyright issue, and for that reason, the Court rejects that form of disclosure.

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze
    Darkspilver’s concerns stem largely out of his fear that those in his congregation will discover his identity and shun him. If Reddit reveals Darkspilver’s identity to Watch Tower’s counsel, under an “attorney’s eyes only” restriction, then any harm to Darkspilver would be alleviated.

    Complete pie in the sky nonsense. And if (when) they do get his identity and disfellowship him, what is the recourse? Sue the attorneys? They have free litigation indefinitely where poor darkspilver will have to spend untold sums to seek:

    1. proof that they somehow leaked (which they will)

    2. compensation for NEVER being able to see his family again.

    How do you put a price on that.? You simply cannot put a price on some things. There is no way to get that back even if he was to extract a settlement out of the WT & their attorneys.

    I guess I'm a superstitious man. I worry that unfortunate accidents might start happening to this attorney and possibly members of the GB when they break the peace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75CFbaajKg

  • BourneIdentity
    BourneIdentity

    How will they obtain his identity? A lot create fake email accounts and all Reddit asks for is an email address and username when joining.

  • BourneIdentity
    BourneIdentity

    Darkspilvers only hope is his family wakes up and leaves as well. There is a huge awakening going on and I believe more and more JWs are seeing through all the bullshit. The child abuse cases are showing up on mainstream news sources and the pleas for money are happening more and more often, they have no shame. Not to mention the JW.org logo plastered everywhere. All the titles in the Organization, has a total corporate feel to it, nothing resembling a religion.

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Nincompoop judge... the only knees to be broken are darkspilver's ..

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