Raining before the Flood?
Thanks for posting that John Aquila. It all makes much more sense when seen through the prism of how an ancient people tried to explain things. But once you get into trying to marry it up with science, it all goes a bit wonky. And that's really the fundamental problem of treating the bible as a history book, as a science textbook, and, dare I say it, even a guide to morality (slavery? just saying.).
There are holes in the sky where the rain gets in.
They're ever so small, that's why rain is thin.
(Spike Milligan) Probably incomprehensible to our US friends.
Nice one George - I'd forgotten that one.
I don't know how many here have been to Niagara Falls in Ontario, Canada. Even when you're way up above the falls on the lawns toward the roads a few individual hairs on your head do stand on end!!
What this means is that when enormous amounts of water fall from a height it creates energy. Imagine covering every land mass of the entire planet in a short period of time, all that water would probably flash to steam.
Critical thinking guys!!! That's all it takes sometimes.
Also, what comes to mind, if it never rained before ''the flood'', then how would the rivers & lakes water supplies be replenished? The mountains need rain/snow to provide runoff for rivers and lakes. Also vast prairie lands need rain for rivers and such.
If it never rained before the flood, then how would wild animals, horses and fish survive if there was no water provided to replenish lakes and rivers as all the water would have been stored in the skies??
Insight:"At an early point in the history of the preparation of the earth, “God had not made it rain upon the earth,” but “a mist would go up from the earth and it watered the entire surface of the ground.” The time referred to is evidently early on the third creative “day,” before vegetation appeared. (Ge 1:9-13; 2:5, 6;)"
If you read a book where there is a speaking snake; you know immediately that the story is myth or magic. If you are a young child you might expect stories to be like this... but for an adult it usually registers as some sort of fairy tale. If you think otherwise...think again or get a proper education.
So the flood story in the Bible is entirely in the spirit of a myth since the events tell of a physically impossible event (there was not enough water to cover the highest mountains) and this is not surprising since the story was borrowed, like most of the Biblical “sacred writings” from much older mythology, in this case from the earliest writings known to mankind, from Mesopotamia where writing was first developed and can therefore be called the beginning of the “historic period” as opposed to pre-history.
What the flood myths encapsulate is the re-working of a prehistoric folk memory of climate change.
There was indeed a time when rain was scarce during the last ice age which ended as recently as 12,000 years ago. The arctic cold spell had peaked around eighteen thousand years before the present when much of the Northern hemisphere was covered in ice. In Europe that meant glaciers coming as far south as the British Isles and tundra or steppe conditions down to the shores of the Mediterranean with woolly mammoth, woolly rhinoceros and reindeer flourishing in those regions which were characterised by a particular low and sparse vegetation (called mammoth steppe).
This climate situation recurs over geological time and has done so for about twenty times in the last 2.3 million years. The key features are the tremendous drop in sea water levels and a corresponding colossal build up of Arctic and Antarctic ice during the coldest periods. This meant that in the latitudes just south of the Mediterranean there was hardly any rainfall with most of the free moisture bound up in the ice. In fact lakes were significantly higher where it was not frozen and indeed a mist or dew watered the plants as it does today in places like Namibia or at the driest place on Earth in the Atacama Desert in northern Chile. At that time, as the archeology and earth- scientists record that the Sahara was greener then, not everywhere was dry. As evidence of cold resulting in drought; look at the Arctic today which remains a dry desert.
The flood myths generally and there are very many of them, as in the Genesis account do contrast the former drought with the later deluge. So the melting of the ice caps at the end of the ice age, over a period of some four thousand years created a “pluvial” episode or ultra rainy period which would induce many localised floods.
Of course the Bible uses “stories” often greatly embellished or exaggerated to teach morality lessons such as if you do not worship God you will be punished... and basically that is why the borrowed flood myth was used by the Hebrews in Genesis.
Lets also remember that god made a covenant with Noah to save him and his family. Nowhere was there a provision to save anyone else. In the book of Peter where it says that Noah was a preacher that's complete bunk. Also after the flood god wants Noah to sacrifice animals to him because he likes the sweet smell, so how many animals went extinct?. And last but not least god regrets killing man and even though he knows man will be evil again he says he will never kill mankind off this way, So what was the point of doing it in the first place.
Crazyguyan hour agoLets also remember that god made a covenant with Noah to save him and his family. Nowhere was there a provision to save anyone else. In the book of Peter where it says that Noah was a preacher that's complete bunk. Also after the flood god wants Noah to sacrifice animals to him because he likes the sweet smell, so how many animals went extinct?. And last but not least god regrets killing man and even though he knows man will be evil again he says he will never kill mankind off this way, So what was the point of doing it in the first place.Even ~70 % of individuals in many animal species were to be killed, even though they survived the flood. and Jesus said the Great Tribulation, Armageddon will be like Noah's experience. We hope you are clean!
@ - Crazyguy - God had to "flood" the earth, because the pure gene pool of humanity was "tainted" by the co-mingling of evil demonic spirit creatures coming down and mating with humans. The resulting offsprings were monstrous and destructive and powerful. The spirit creatures, most likely took other forms, besides a perfect sexually viable male specimen. They took physical body of all manner of perfect forms, both beautiful and horrible, both powerful, and cunning., They tampered with the "pure" gene pool of the line of Seth. The line of Cain, was "polluted", and twisted. Bred as centaurs, ogres, lizardmen, the cloven, the giants, the satyrs, and also the beautiful elves, and fairy winged sprites, the dream wishers, and mushroom eaters, the mermaids and merman, the faun, and pixies. The pure for vision of God was changed forever, thru the tampering of the gentics of humans, by the powerful demon starmen, that came from the very heavens above, with the knowledge of the universe, as they were the very witnesses of creation.
OR, its all bullshit, and a wild fantasy story, take your pick, lol.