Don't you think that some people are just better off within the org?
But OnTheWayOut, I reckon that people return to the Organization (or never leave mentally) do so for the good that they feel. If we are all honest, through out all the years we were menially in, was not there many times we actually enjoyed being a Witness? I enjoyed being an Ministerial Servant and Elder ... well I got the satisfaction of helping others, my friends in the congregation despite being very busy. I felt the satisfaction of a person knowing that had the 'truth' and was a little special. I felt safe amongst people who were my brothers. And I was happy that I had a good future to look forward to. We all had those feelings at some time.
Of course, those feelings were based on a lie and all most none of it was real but we still felt it.
And I guessing that many people would stay with the Society even if they knew it was fake, because they would consider it still better than being outside. Anyway thats what I though.
In any case I wish everyone a good new year ... and I'm sure the Governing Body will provide for us many interesting topics for us to discuss in the weeks and months to come.
If we are all honest, through out all the years we were menially in, was not there many times we actually enjoyed being a Witness?
I thought so, but it turned out I was wrong. I thought I enjoyed having a special relationship with God, him having saved me for special purposes. That was hogwash.
I thought I enjoyed "helping" people. It turns out I was helping them to think they should remain good JW's, so they would have been better off without my help. I thought I enjoyed delivering powerful helpful public talks. I suppose you can guess how I felt later when I realized I might have been helping to convert some people to JW's with those talks.
You were "happy that [you] had a good future to look forward to." But once you discovered that was a lie, you probably changed your thoughts on your previous happiness. Once I knew the lies, I never wanted to look back with fondness.
Old Navy - re: your post on page 4 - I meant to like your post and I accidentally hit dislike, then thought I could “toggle” it off, and gave you another dislike! Eep! So sorry!
I’ve tried to “like” your post again, so hopefully it works. If you see 2 dislikes, that was fumbly, bumbling me!
scratchme1010- I think you are right on the money. That's what I observe too with some folks that are in.
I’m very unsure about the answer to this question. I had a relative tell me that without the Org, she would be lost in life. To me that’s very telling about how much control the org plays in their life. I feel like in that case yes, they would be better off in the organization because outside of it they couldn’t last.
Most people are not eggs, they are not going to break when under a little pressure.
There are things I initially thought I could not or would not ever do, such as no longer being a JW. Some things maybe difficult, but a person never knows until they actually decide themself to do it,
I think most of my family would want to know the ttatt, unfortunately I can't think of any way to make that happen.
It's just so sad. I miss them.
"If we are all honest, through out all the years we were menially in, was not there many times we actually enjoyed being a Witness?"
Not too much, actually.
Partly why I have a tough time with the "some just stay in for the social aspect" thing.
I'll be honest,I think I used being a Witness as a crutch. It's easy to hide away in a cult. But,then one realizes that it's not really living your life to the fullest.
Some may disagree,but I don't feel that in your face,speaking against the Witnesses works in waking anyone up. A person has to be ready to accept the truth about the truth. But,I can only speak from my own personal experience. Doing research on-line,did it for me.