Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman 349 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  scholar

  The 'faithful and discreet slave' or steward described in Matthew 24:45-46 and Luke 12: 41-48 are both parables which describe not only Christians as individuals being faithful to the Master's commands in being diligent in carrying reponsibilities of discipleship and to heed the exhortation to 'Keep on the Watch!' but also as a collective - the true Chuch of anointed Christians. The contrext of these parables is eschatological which pertains to events beginning in 1914 CE with the birth of Goid's Kingdom and the Parousia.

  Further, these two parables are characteristic of what some theologians have coined 'eschatological wisdom' - or because of the didactic character of these parables as representing a 'prophetic pronouncement of wisdom'. Thus the true eschatological Church as described in the book of Revelation comprised of its leadership as its base or core and community work together unitedly to promote true wisdom - Bible education by means of worldwide evangelism unparalled in all of human history in harmony with the parabolic nature of these two parables.

  An 'eschatological triennium' consisting of such dates as 1914, 1918 and 1919 describe the modern history of Jehovah's Witnesses in keeping with the fulfilment of prophecy. The two parables require interpretation as with all the other parables which refer to God's Kingdom. Sound principles of both exegesis and eisegesis combine together to show how the 'faihful slave is visible in their conduct and ministry, being faithful to the Bible in fulfilment of these two prophetic parables or 'prophetic pronouncements of wisdom'.

  scholar JW emeritus
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  Jeffro

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  punkofnice

  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  Jeeves the Butler.
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  TonusOH

  Godlyman: I will reveal them shortly.

  Finally! After more than two thousand years of waiting!
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  waton

  The mess iah, question answered: " by their works you will know them."
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  Vanderhoven7

  Every faithful anointed follower of Jesus Christ from the first to the twenty-first century.
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  peacefulpete

  ...both exegesis and eisegesis combine together

  In 21 years I think this is the first time we agree Scholar.

  Eisegesis (/ˌaɪsɪˈdʒiːsɪs/) is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases. It is commonly referred to as reading into the text.[1] It is often done to "prove" a pre-held point of concern, and to provide confirmation bias corresponding with the pre-held interpretation and any agendas supported by it.
  
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  Vanderhoven7

  I could accept your first paragraph with the following correction

  "The 'faithful and discreet slave' or steward described in Matthew 24:45-46 and Luke 12: 41-48 are both parables which describe not only Christians as individuals being faithful to the Master's commands in being diligent in carrying responsibilities of discipleship and to heed the exhortation to 'Keep on the Watch!' but also as a collective - the true Church of anointed Christians. The context of these parables is eschatological which pertains to events beginning in 1914 CE with the birth of God's Kingdom and the Parousia. that will transpire when Christ returns, i.e., at the parousia of the Lord Jesus Christ.

  1914, 1918, 1919 1922, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1928, 1929, 1975 all mythologically manufactured bogus dates with no evident biblical significance..
  
  
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  peacefulpete

  Vander...do you identify as an "anointed"?
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  Konagirl

  @Godlyman - "If anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?"

  Hello,

  Okay, based on scripture. In Matt 21:18-21, the point is made that Jesus is hungry and walks up to a fig tree with no fruit on it. As a sign to his disciples, he said to a fig tree, “’Let no fruit grow on you ever again.’” Immediately the fig tree withered away.”

  Fruit is signified as spiritual food that those whom Jesus chooses, are to produce. He said in Matthew 7:15-20 to be aware of false prophets, and likened them to a tree that produces bad fruit. Again, fruit signifies teachings/food. No good fruit, no good teachings are found on a tree that has produced bad fruit. Bad fruit rots and withers, just as the fruit produced by the heads of the organization have rotted and withered away, since the beginning of the organization. “Therefore, by their fruits you will know them” – that is, we can recognize false prophets/teachers, as well as those “faithful slaves”/prophets/teachers that Jesus sends.

  John 15:16 –“You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.”

  So, what happens to the trees that produce rotten fruit? “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.” Matt 7:19

  In Matt 3:8-10, John the Baptist told the Pharisees and Sadducees the same thing. And “fire” signifies the word of God. Jer 23:29 That is, the measuring line of a “faithful slave”; whether that person follows and teaches the word of Christ.

  Another important point, is that among Jesus’ faithful slaves that he sends to provide “food at the proper time” (Matt 24:45) – or, shall we say, the correct understanding of the scriptures and in the last days, primarily the book of Revelation; this one would never announce himself or herself as the faithful slave Jesus had chosen. That declaration is up to Jesus when he returns. Matt 25:14-30

  “It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.” Matt 24:46

  “Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.” John 7:18

  Jesus will comparatively judge his servants by the acceptance or rejection of his words, and the exultation of their own words. Luke 19:22; John 12:48

  Since it apparent that you feel you are the faithful and discreet slave whom Jesus sends, then do you believe you are the messenger of the covenant that restores/refines the holy priesthood in the last days – the “Elijah” that Jesus said will arrive to “restore all things”? Or, are you solely set on dates and literal signs that you see happening in the world? I hope not, since that is the failure of the GB, and we see how they grapple to hold on to a date (1914) that they have built their organization around.

  Mal 3:1-5; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3