Will the U.S. Supreme Court be RIDICULED by JW lawyers?

by The Fall Guy 15 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  The Fall Guy

  In view of the statements below by the WTBTS hierarchy, how on earth can U.S. Supreme Court judges possibly be conned into accepting JW lawyers' claim/defence of clergy-penitent privilege in the $35m lawsuit?

  If you don't have a clergy, how can you have clergy-penitent privilege?

  Has no one in the U.S.A. pointed out to the judiciary that they're being duped?

  w06 3/1 p. 5 - “a clergy class—ideas borrowed from pagan religions and philosophers.”

  w94 2/15 p. 7 Are Jehovah’s Witnesses a Cult? (LOL!) “Jehovah’s Witnesses...reject the concept of a clergy-laity distinction.”

  w94 5/1 p. 25 par. 19 - “They (JW's) never had a clergy class..“

  w90 2/1 p. 13 par. 16 - “an unscriptural clergy class developed. “

  w84 8/15 p. 12 par. 10 - “That mandate was given to all Christians, not to a select clergy class.

  w83 9/15 p. 6 - With the rise of the apostasy foretold by the apostles, a clergy class developed.

  w83 9/15 p. 13 par. 12 ‘Quietly Bringing in Destructive Sects” (LOL) - “the apostate Christian clergy class, was fully “revealed.” It has continued on down through the centuries in all the churches and sects of Christendom that have a special ministry or clerical class.”

  w81 4/1 p. 15 - “Jehovah’s Witnesses have for years followed the direction of the Founder of Christianity that “all you are brothers,” and have no clergy class among them.”
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  zeb

  They tried to pull the clergy thing at the CARC and got themselves rapped for it. The justice said (along this line) 'you deny clergy exist in your organization now you are claiming it. You cant have it both ways.'

  Oh I would love to be in there when they face the law.
  
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  Diogenesister

  ZebThey tried to pull the clergy thing at the CARC and got themselves rapped for it. The justice said (along this line) 'you deny clergy exist in your organization now you are claiming it. You cant have it both ways.'

  Yup. If there's one other lawyer in the world that can follow a class act like Angus, Irwin Zalkin is the man. They're not pulling the wool over his eyes anytime soon!!
  
  
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  eyeuse2badub

  Of course jehober is going to 'put the correct words' into the mouths of the jw lawyers so that they come off victorious!-----Right? Or maybe jehober will allow a little persecution to come upon "his people" as a way to "cleanse" the borganization! Either way "praise jah" all you people!

  just saying!
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  Corney

  U.S. Supreme Court judges ... the $35m lawsuit?

  You didn't read the petition, did you?

  Also, elders, COs, Bethelites and others are clergy as defined by law in many (if not all) US jurisdictions. And it doesn't matter what's written in Watchtower. Moreover, if the org's lawyers denied that elders and others are clergy merely because of those statements, it would be a frivolous argument.
  
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  blondie
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  Logofile

  QUOTE: "And it doesn't matter what's written in Watchtower. Moreover, if the org's lawyers denied that elders and others are clergy merely because of those statements, it would be a frivolous argument."

  That's right, to those who view themselves as being 'in the truth,' consistency and truth are indeed rather frivolous and seem not to matter much, as if the God of truth, whom they claim to worship, actually cared about it.
  
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  Dagney

  I watched an interview with Zalkin on Cedar's channel this morning, and he said WT will lose this. He said you can't bring a new argument to the USSC that hasn't been argued in each of the courts before appealing to the Federal court. It is just not the way it works.

  I think this is going to be fun to watch.
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  Listener

  It's almost as if the Watchtower's wrote up their case with the intention of losing it.

  Will their defence in refusing to hand over documents in future cases be on the basis that it has not been ruled on in the Supreme Court.
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  The Fall Guy

  @ Corney - You didn't read the post properly, did you?

  You are missing the whole point of the post, which is the sheer hypocrisy of the lying scumbags who are running the WTBTS and dominating 8+ million lives.

  They tell their followers one thing and then reverse that "truth" when they go into a court of law.

  So I'll leave it to you to tell the forum, exactly who the WTBTS is lying to?

  You do agree that they are lying to someone don't you, or are you going to defend their double-speak?

  Based on your understanding of "defined law in many jurisdictions," every single JW by definition should be regarded as clergy, because they are all ministers - according to the WTBTS dogma.

  Thanks, D.S.