Putin presents the Order of Parental Glory to a Russian Jehovah's Witness family

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  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54643

    Presenting the Order of Parental Glory
    On the eve of International Children’s Day, Vladimir Putin presented the Order of Parental Glory to parents of large families. The recipients included families from Astrakhan and Yaroslavl regions, the republics of Karelia, Buryatia, North Ossetia-Alania, Perm and Primorye territories, and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area – Yugra.
    The Order of Parental Glory was established by a Presidential Executive Order signed in May 2008 and is awarded to parents (or adoptive parents) raising 7 or more children and ensuring due care for their health, education, and physical, spiritual and moral development.

    *read full text of Putin's speech at link and view photos of ceremony

    For more information on the Order of Parental Glory:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Parental_Glory

    Parental glory.jpg

    The following is a report from the Press Service of the Head Office of the Republic of Karelia and it describes the Order of Parental Glory being given to a family from Karelia - the Novik family. Valery and Tatiana Novik.

    http://www.gov.karelia.ru/gov/News/2017/05/0531_37.html

    (google translate):

    On the eve of International Children's Day, President Vladimir Putin has awarded the family of Karelia
    Today in the Kremlin Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded the Order of "Parental Glory" citizens of Karelia Valery and Tatiana Novik. In their family is brought up eight children of different ages.
     Photo: Press-service of the President of the Russian Federation
    Order "Parental Glory" from the hands of the President received in the Kremlin family of Astrakhan and Yaroslavl regions, Karelia, Buryatia, North Ossetia-Alania, the Perm and the Primorsky Territory, the Khanty-Mansiysk Autonomous Okrug - Yugra. regional leaders were invited to the awards ceremony, including the Acting Head of Karelia Arthur Parfenchikov.
    - In this room a lot of really happy people. Day after day with their children you again learns the world, share with them a sense of pride in their success, see how thanks to your efforts reveal their best qualities, talents, and I am sure, are doing everything that they grew honest, decent people, decent citizens of our country.Of course, a large, large family - it's not just luck. First of all, it is a big job and, of course, is a huge responsibility. This work without breaks and weekends. Children, their needs, concerns, and their good - for you are always in first place, - said Vladimir Putin.
    Novik's family - eight children. Elder sons Yuri and Boris have received vocational training and work away from home. In Petrozavodsk school № 35 study Matthew, Konstantin and Nadezhda Novik. In addition to schooling, they are successfully engaged in athletics. Nazar kindergartners and Vsevolod already showing themselves in sports and little Agatha while sitting still at home with her mother.
    All his spare time, Valery and Tatiana Novik spend with their children: with clean area near the house at a volunteer, many working at their summer cottage. Valery helps kindergarten, which is visited by his children, walks with his sons on a fishing trip, the master with their bird feeders. Tatiana teaches kids to cook and often bake cakes together with them.
    Family Novik is a worthy example for the others in the education of children and strengthening the family traditions.
    Order "Parental Glory" is awarded to citizens of Russia, have at least seven children. This takes into account the lifestyle and social responsibility of the parents, their concern about physical health, education, spiritual and moral development of children.

    *Note the date that the Novik family received their award. May 31, 2017

    At the bottom of the above article, at the link posted, there is a video of the ceremony and at 6:40, you can watch Putin pin the Order of Parental Glory on the chests of the Novik parents. One for the father and one for the mother.

    The above reports don't mention it, but the Novik family are Jehovah's Witnesses.

    From the jw-russia website:

    https://jw-russia.org/news/17060606-176.html

    The family of Jehovah's Witnesses took the order from the hands of the head of state
    May 31, 2017 in Moscow, at a meeting in the Kremlin, the president handed Valery and Tatiana Novik, Jehovah's Witnesses from Karelia, the Order of "Parental Glory". At the awarding ceremony was also attended by all six children Novikov.
    The Order is awarded to parents of large families, who are setting an example to strengthen the institution of the family and the upbringing of children, form a socially responsible family and lead a healthy lifestyle, provide a full and harmonious development of personality of children, a high level of care for their health, education, physical, spiritual and moral development.
    In reply, referring to the spiritual and moral development of children, Valery Novik quoted text from the Bible, which serves as a reference for it, both for the parents: "Train up a boy on the right path; he will not depart from it, even when you are old "(Proverbs 22: 6).


  • steve2
    steve2

    The following excerpt is from Wikipedia

    The badge of the Order is a 70 mm wide gilt silver cross pattée, with arms that are flared towards the concave outer ends. The cross obverse is enamelled in blue. At its center is a circular red enamelled medallion edged in gold and bearing the gilded coat of arms of the Russian Federation. A green enamelled laurel wreath passes under and near the outer ends of the cross. Golden rays extend between the cross's arms to the laurel wreath. The reverse is plain (golden) and bears the award serial number.[3]

    A smaller 40 mm wide badge of the Order is also given for wear in special circumstances. The gentlemen's badge is suspended by a ring through the badge suspension loop from a standard Russian pentagonal mount covered by a 24 mm wide overlapping white silk moiré ribbon with two 1,5 mm wide light blue stripes situated 8 mm from the ribbon outer edge. The ladies' badge hangs from a bow made of the same ribbon. Both are worn on the left breast.[3]

    Well this is awkward on two fronts, firstly for Putin and secondly for the Novik's

    1. The Russian Supreme Court recently upheld the banning of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia on the grounds it is an "extremist" religious movement. And Mr Putin now awards the JW parents the Award of Parental Glory! Awkward moment, Mr Putin, huh?

    2. The badge, which Mr Novik is pictured wearing on his suit lapel, oozes pagan symbolism, the silver cross pattee being a non-subtle stand out. Awkward moment, Mr Novik, huh?

    I doubt this will be mentioned on JW.org - or if it is, a watered down account will be provided, with readers spared a photo of Mr Novik wearing the badge.

  • waton
    waton

    Hitler gave crosses, patterned after the "pour le merit" military medal, to mothers of 4 or more kids, 4 was bronze, above silver. above 7 gold. ?

    One things the dictators have right, ( not the left) fill your land with bearers of your own genes, do not surrender it to invaders.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    Steve: The Russian Supreme Court recently upheld the banning of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia on the grounds it is an "extremist" religious movement. And Mr Putin now awards the JW parents the Award of Parental Glory! Awkward moment, Mr Putin, huh?

    A little awkward, isn't it? And it raises all sorts of questions. Did Putin know that he was giving the award to an "extremist" family? If he didn't, he should have. And if he did...it might be worthwhile to consider that this is not a typical JW family.

    Putin may very well be saying - "this is how a JW family should be - lots of kids instead of restricting family size in order to give service to the org rather than to a family. And...a family that allows their children to be engaged in sports." Maybe that is the message. I dunno.

    Note that the father claims that his kids are engaged in athletics. Sports apparently figures prominently in their family - at least prominently enough that it is mentioned by the father in his acceptance speech. Was that made up for the benefit of the "worldly" people giving him the award? Because it certainly goes against what the org tells families to do. And yet the award was posted on an official jworg website so it appears as though the org has implicitly approved kids to engage in sports.

    I am a little curious about the two oldest children - are they really away working (in a Bethel somewhere?...maybe in Finland?) or, as in so many JW families...have the two oldest been disfellowshipped or "fell away"? (note that the reports from official sources say that the Novik family has "8" children but the jworg site only mentions a family of 6)

    It is rather strange that a family that belongs to a religion that practices shunning can receive an award for raising a socially responsible family. A family that is being raised to not engage in the socially responsible acts of voting and serving in the military.

    *it is also noteworthy that this story comes out of the republic of Karelia - right up there next to Finland. From some of the chatter I have read online, that area of Russia boasts some very wealthy JWs. Ones who give choice pieces of land to prominent people...jus' sayin'

    waton: One things the dictators have right, ( not the left) fill your land with bearers of your own genes, do not surrender it to invaders.

    Russia has a problem with declining population. Quite a large problem, actually.

    Russia's population peaked in the early 1990s (at the time of the end of the Soviet Union) with about 148 million people in the country. Today, Russia's population is approximately 143 million. The United States Census Bureau estimates that Russia's population will decline from the current 143 million to a mere 111 million by 2050, a loss of more than 30 million people and a decrease of more than 20%.


    Russia has a very high death rate of 15 deaths per 1000 people per year. This is far higher than the world's average death rate of just under 9................

    Russia's total fertility rate is low at 1.3 births per woman. This number represents the number of children each Russian woman has during her lifetime. A replacement total fertility rate to maintain a stable population is 2.1 births per woman............

  • VIII
    VIII

    Crazy!

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    steve: I doubt this will be mentioned on JW.org - or if it is, a watered down account will be provided, with readers spared a photo of Mr Novik wearing the badge.

    It is being talked about over on jwtalk. Complete with all the material I posted, including a full copy of Putin's speech. And a big photo of the Noviks wearing the medal. And everyone over there are peeing their pants...Jehovah! is working! Regardless of how or why - the reason this is happening is Jehovah!

    Of course Jehovah! In time for the appeal - to show that Putin likes the JWs.

    Eh...I am more inclined to think that this Russian 'ban" (kicking the organization out of Russia) is going to play out much like it did in WW2 Germany. Some of the JW$ will cooperate and align them$elve$ with the 'enemy' while others will be sifted. The poor ones - the ones who "hold fast" because they have nothing el$e to hold fast to. They will be, and are, the ones who are the WT's poster persecution victims. While other JW$ will coast through, making the mo$t of a bad situation. The ones who Jehovah will ble$$ through this hardship.

    In other news in the rest of Russia...some Jehovah's Witnesses are losing their jobs. Anyone who holds a position connected to public service is in risk of being fired. Forced to retire. Laid off. Apparently. As reported on the jw-russia website.

  • waton
    waton

    If you look at little lilliput Putin in that picture. like the other Russian celebrity near - dwarf, Gagarin.

    Perhaps he wants to drive home the message: we are proud of, and have nothing personally against individual jw members, only fighting their teachings, organisation.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    waton: Perhaps he wants to drive home the message: we are proud of, and have nothing personally against individual jw members, only fighting their teachings, organisation.

    That is possible.

    Who knows the full story? Are the Noviks even JWs? The jw-russia website has claimed them as their own. But maybe they used to be JWs and aren't anymore? And why would they accept an award from the man that Sanderson insinuates is the personification of the devil himself? And let that man, who opposes JWs so much, whose government's ban has resulted in "so much persecution!" of JWs in Russia, pin this medal on you?

    Note the double headed eagle - the Imperial symbol of the Romanov family, the last monarchs of Russia. And the sun rays, signifying the divine nature of the State.

    I don't know what has changed, but in my day as a JW, allowing a head of state that was responsible for banning Jehovah's special people, pin that to my chest would have been considered blasphemy. Wearing it would have meant the ultimate "Jehovah betrayal". As bad as, if not worse than, eating blood.

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