In Sydney, and ex jw gathering, with an apperance by Angus Stewart!

by nonjwspouse 62 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Listener

    Another income earning activity that he conjured up was to have ex JWs pay him for the chance to have a little of their own sad story to be printed in his book, along with the authority to allow him to tweek their words.

    At least this one wasn't illegal.

  • LV101

    I agree COC being made available however/whatever means possible. Most JWs are unable to spend $100+ or even know about it but how was Lloyd Evans able to make copies legally and sell - interesting. At least it's available again -- hopefully, on more than one site.

  • dubstepped

    So much butthurt. Did he reject your story or something?

    I get that he's rubbed people the wrong way at times but to discount what he's done over petty stuff is pretty weak.

    I ask my guests on the podcast what helped them wake up and most credit him among others. He's helped a lot more people than those that are so mad. Do you know how much time he must spend dealing with the cult to try to help people and then the hate he gets? I just do podcasts and it takes a lot of time. Let's not act like he's getting wealthy off his activism. If he did I wouldn't begrudge it though.

    How someone can try to turn a great and encouraging event into their own bitch fest based on one guy is pretty sad. Sounds more like jealousy than anything when it's so petty.

  • dubstepped

    By the way, great job Sacha, Sherrie, Joho, Bev, Fifth, Normalfulla, Lloyd, Angus freaking Stewart, etc. That was well done. Hundreds watched live online and had a good time.

  • Anna Marina
    Anna Marina

    I wonder why Angus Stewart went? I know the role he played, what I mean is it must have been difficult to contact him. Isn't he a judge now?

    Does one of the party know him personally?

  • Finkelstein

    Angus Stewart went because he does support the initiative of changing the JWS's child sexual abuse policy and support the people who are trying to implement that change..

    I also think its good thing for Ex-JWS to get together to talk out their problems with leaving the JWS cult.

  • blondie

    Anna Marina, I am sure that Stewart had much contact with ex-jws regarding this issue and then with his own judicial group, looked at both viewpoints and proof/evidence provided before questioning the WTS representatives in open court.

    I'm sure those contacts became closer as time went on. I know several judges through my work and my family's contacts.

    Having already weighed in on the judicial decision, association at a social level would not be wrong. After all, Stewart has never been a jw so is not subject to the WTS rules regarding df'd/da'd jws or so-called jw apostates.

  • Anna Marina
    Anna Marina

    Hi Blondie

    I'm not suggesting any wrong doing in socialising just wondering how it would affect things if Angus Stewart was a judge over similar matters. Could WBTS refuse to have him as a judge in future court cases or do they have no choice?

    I have never heard of a judicial group. Do judges also have judicial groups or is it just solicitors?

  • blondie

    They have unions here, organizations of judges in the same state who send out speakers, etc.


    A judge may have ruled against a certain organization and the defending attorney for such a group, may ask for a different judge. But that is ruled on by another judge. My experience, is that the ruling by a judge in this case is on a narrow issue, not the whole organization. The WTS is also able to ask for the ruling to be appealed to a appeal court (usually 3 judges with considerable judicial experience). So can the defense cherry pick the judge. Perhaps, but in the end if appealed it will be 3 separate appeal judges, selected in this way.

    Supreme Court justices, court of appeals judges, and district court judges are nominated by the President and confirmed by the United States Senate, as stated in the Constitution. ... Article III of the Constitution states that these judicial officers areappointed for a life term.

  • Anna Marina
    Anna Marina

    Thank you Blondie. I appreciate that. It's very interesting.

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