Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?

by blondie 150 Replies latest jw friends

  • Jehalapeno
    Jehalapeno
    There are guns designed for hunting humans in a war type scenario/application and there are rifles used for and designed for hunting wildlife.

    Why do you keep repeating this lie?

    All guns were designed as first and foremost weapons of war.

    Please name one single gun design that did not start as a weapon of war.

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard
    They are more concerned for themselves and their love of guns which they think is going to perhaps protect them one day.

    Yeah... I wonder where they get THAT concern from? One peek at the Green New Deal, with *every* left Presidential candidate in support, and a majority of Democrats in Congress, and you wonder why some might be concerned about tyranny? Good forking lord, it is flat out socialism. If that was actually passed and signed into law, there would LITERALLY be no choice but to resist.

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard
    Problem is that there some Americans who have an acute infliction of social apathy.

    No Fink. Every policy I support, from free markets to gun ownership, is supported because it will have net positive effects on society.

    I understand you’re motivation comes from a similar source. However, I just think you are incorrect - a product of not thinking through the net effects, not seeing past the first layer of cause and effect. It’s the same here as it is in economics.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Please name one single gun design that did not start as a weapon of war.

    No one is refuting that but today there are guns designed purposefully for war type applications and there are guns designed specifically for hunting wildlife.

    Why has the AR-15 been the gun of choice for human massacres by a single assailant?

    Pull your head out your ass and breath some fresh air.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    No Fink. Every policy I support, from free markets to gun ownership, is supported because it will have net positive effects on society.

    So your saying that Americans should be able to purchase assault type weapons if they have a clear psychological evaluation and a clean criminal record check .

    Yah.. that seems to be having a great positive effect on the incidences of human massacres in the States by single assailants .

  • Jehalapeno
    Jehalapeno
    Why has the AR-15 been the gun of choice for human massacres by a single assailant?

    First of all, It’s not. The gun of choice is handguns. AR-15 stories get more clicks, though, so those are the ones hyped up by the media. The vast majority of “mass shootings” as defined by the Gun Violence Archive use handguns.

    Second of all, it’s the number one selling rifle style in America. It’s very popular. Using your perception of it as being a “gun of choice” is like saying that “lead is the bullet of choice”.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Your being intentionally dismissive Jeh.

    and yes hand guns are used more often in incidences of gun violence over all in a generalization..

    Trying to spin the facts doesn't defer the matter regarding the sale of assault type rifles in the US or why you cant buy or own one in many countries today.

  • hybridous
    hybridous

    regarding the sale of assault type rifles in the US or why you cant buy or own one in many countries today.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem

    Fink, can you address your persistent use of this fallacious argument? You've been leaning on this through the thread.

  • rickroll
    rickroll

    Finkelstine is very ignorant of how a gun works. A bump stock uses the recoil to reset the trigger. One pull one round fired. You can also use rubber bands behind the trigger or a belt loop to accomplish the same thing. One round fired one pull of the trigger, a full automatic is the gun fires as long as the trigger is held back. There are people who have fast reflexes and can fire a semi almost as fast as some full autos.I say some because there is no standard of full auto. Its like saying my car goes faster than this or that car. Depends on the car. some like the MG42 12 to 1500 RPM, where as the MP40 and Thompson were much lower cyclical rate. The AA assault shotgun ran at only about 300 RPM. Its easy to pull the trigger faster than that unless you are very arthritic. I wish people who were such idiots would stop acting like they knew a lot about firearms. Fink you don't. You would not know the difference between an MP40 and M60.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3gf_5MR4tE

    https://www.military.com/video/guns/shotguns/aa-12-fully-automatic-shotgun/940106655001

  • Jehalapeno
    Jehalapeno
    Trying to spin the facts doesn't defer the matter regarding the sale of assault type rifles in the US or why you cant buy or own one in many countries today.

    Why cant people buy or own one in many countries today? Because those countries have different laws than we do. There are lots of things that are legal in the US that aren’t legal in other countries. Like blasphemy.

    If you can pick cherries, so can I.

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