Is Bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding the prelude to the great tribulation?

by Disillusioned JW 63 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Disillusioned JW
    Disillusioned JW

    The video depicts Jesus and the 144,000 as being visible while coming in (or upon) the clouds, with the JW's and some of Gog's forces looking up at them. Does that mean that the WT now teaches that Jesus and his forces will be visible when coming in judgment, as the Gospel of Matthew describes regarding the sign of the Son of Man? Or, does the image simply represent seeing them in the sense of with figurative "eyes of understanding.", as the WT has taught for decades?

    Perhaps the image only shows the JWs and some of Gog's forces seeing a brilliant light through the clouds (at nighttime) and also having an idea of what that means, while also indicating that visually obscured (to human eyes) by the clouds are Christ and the 144,000.

  • notsurewheretogo
    notsurewheretogo

    The bible is fiction and wrong so nothing is coming true.

  • Disillusioned JW
    Disillusioned JW

    Yes the Bible is fiction (mostly), especially regarding claims of the existence of the supernature), but to me it is still interesting to analyze.

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz
    “Let the oceans roar and foam” (Psalms 46:3a,NLT)
    There is only one other occurrence where the Bible speaks of the activity of the oceans being a sign of the times of the End, and that is when Jesus made mention of it in Luke 21:25, NLT: “And there will be strange signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And here on earth, the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides.”
    The verse is talking about “echos thalassis” which can only be explained as noises coming from the sea. The word “echos” appears only a couple more times in the New Testament. For example, in the book of Acts 2:2, we read about the “noise(=echos,) like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting(in the upper room at the Pentecost)”. Although most translations render Luke 21:25 as “roaring and tossing of the sea” this is not the word for word translation of the first and only few render as sounds. For example the Aramaic Bible in Plain English speaks of “the alarm of the sound of the sea.”
    Unfortunately for us Jesus didn’t elaborate on what these “sounds” will be like, but we do see as a result of these “sounds” the nations will be perplexed as to their nature, origin and how to deal with them. Considering that man currently possesses technology that can record and detect objects deep under the surface of the oceans, it remains to be seen what exactly these sounds will be like.
    God put in place many restrictions upon nature for the protection of mankind. These restrictions will be removed during the End. We read in Proverbs 8:29: “I(=wisdom) was there when He(=God) set the limits of the seas, so they would not spread beyond their boundaries. And when he marked off the earth’s foundations.”
    What is more interesting is that the book of Revelation speaks of the planet Earth as being void of oceans at the end of the thousand years of Millennial Rule. We read in Revelation 21:1″ I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.“
    Consider for a moment the fact that the current constitution of the planet where 71% is covered by water is not God’s original purpose for the planet but the result of the destructive after-effects of Noah’s Flood when God deluged the Earth with massive quantities of water in order to destroy the Antediluvian World. We read in Genesis 7:11:“In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month–on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.”
    Most of the water currently occupying the oceans was at one time part of the “great deep” ocean under the earth. Will God return the planet to its previous state with cataclysmic events during the End? Are these “sounds” coming from the oceans part of this planetary change? It remains to be seen.

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