WT / JW Doctrine ,Satan cast out of Heaven in 1914 ? He has always had access to the earth ? Since Eve .

by smiddy3 35 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • RubaDub

    It is true that according to the Bible, Satan had access to the earth from the biblical beginning of man on the earth. Of course, he also had access to heaven.

    So when Satan was thrown out of heaven and forced to live near the earth, it was not the place he wanted to be.

    It is similar to a person who has committed a serious crime. As a part of his judicial sentence, he is forced to wear an ankle bracelet and live in Detroit.

    Rub a Dub

  • Acluetofindtheuser

    Your entire post earlier was very interesting Doug Mason. Here's a portion that caught my eye, in which I am starting to believe.

    As immortal beings, they were asexual; in the Garden story God does not tell them to "be fertile and increase" as they were told in the first creation story (Gen. 1:28). Sexuality is discovered only after eating from the tree, when "they perceived that they were naked" (3:7).

    Let's take this a bit further.

    The Lord's day arrives. Everyone whom God chooses is changed in a twinkle of an eye. Per Jesus, these special people have no sex drive. They are deemed immortal and they live on the new earth with the new heavens above. One thousand years go by and then an evil influence is allowed to tempt these special immortal people. A number of them pass this test and a number do not. The ones that do not pass are removed somehow. The ones that pass are allowed to eat of the tree of life. After eating of that tree they are given a sexual drive for procreation, thereby merging immortality with sexuality.

  • smiddy3

    I`m confused , before Eve was tempted by the serpent Adam being a man would have had a penis ?

    And Eve ,before she was tempted would have had a vagina ?

    Or are we supposed to believe this all miracuously happened after Eve sinned ?

    Or do some say that Adam And Eve were both A-sexual and that they were to be just companions of each other ?

    Is that why men have nipples and man boobs as they get older ?

    i`m serious .

  • joey jojo
    joey jojo

    No animal is aware that they are naked, yet all creatures and plants have sex, more or less.

  • eyeuse2badub

    Just like Santa Claus always has access to my chimney except when he's at the north pole with his elfs making toys!

    just saying!

  • nowwhat?

    So you mean to say Adam and Eve saw all these animals humping😳 and the thought never crossed their minds? 😂

  • blondie

    nowwhat, I thought that too, after all there is nothing in the bible that says god provided sex education for humans (maybe perfect people knew automatically). Yes, when you step back and think about the ridiculous things the WTS says (without any real scriptural proof), you wonder how we every bought into any of it.

  • Finkelstein

    Let it be said and recognized that people who are JWS dont think critically about the bible's ancient mythological expressions or what certain relgoius leaders (WTS.) who say they have the most accurate interpretation of these writings.

  • Deltron3030


    You are 100% correct! This is the arguement I've been having with my JW dad for 2 decades. If Satan is questioning Gods right to rule, why is the world so crappy? Wouldn't it be a lavish wonderland full of glitter and unicorns that spit rainbows? Why do JW's claim to be persecuted by Satan AND claim to be in a bullet proof spiritual paradise? I think it's because good and evil have always been, and will always be. JW's over complicate everything. The earth is spiraling out of control because mankind can't unite to accomplish anything and they never will. Modern technology is the only reason why things have gotten worse. There were no AR-15's years ago, so maniacs couldn't kill 26 people in 30 seconds. WW1 was so bad, because soldiers stopped rising horses onto open battlefields. Some unsophisticated armies still did, but for the most part they would dig in and blow each other apart with more advanced weaponry than was ever seen before at the time. 1914 is just like the WT obsession with 1919. They're just dates with no significant meaning. Evil has always been here, as well as good, and is up to us to decide what we decide to do with our 70-100 years on this planet.

    My comment is scatter brained, but hopefully some of you will be able to understand my thought pattern.

  • Muddy Waters
    Muddy Waters

    DOUG MASON - I loved your explanation, thank you! In my excitement to “like” your post, my finger slipped and I hit dislike!

    Keep those informative posts coming, it is SO GOOD to hear different explanations and interpretations. Thank you.

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