I am a little worried....

by Ravyn 37 Replies latest jw friends

  • Ravyn
    Ravyn

    my mother had ovarian cancer, her mother died of breast cancer, one of my father's sisters had colon cancer. I had bleeding every two weeks for about a year myself, and now I have abdominal swelling and kidney pain, difficulty urinating(been blaming the lupus--but none of the tests are showing anything wrong!) I look like I am pregnant the swelling is so bad.

    I am having this test done next Thursday. wish me luck. Ravyn > I hope you all take the time to read this and pass
    >it on to all you can. Send this to the women in your
    >life that you care about.
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    >
    > Years ago, Gilda Radner died of ovarian cancer. Her
    >symptoms were inconclusive, and she was treated for
    >everything under the sun until it was too late. This
    >blood test finally identified her illness but alas,
    >too late.
    >
    >
    >
    > She wrote a book to heighten awareness. Gene Wilder
    >is her widower.
    >
    >
    >
    > KATHY'S STORY: this is the story of Kathy West
    >
    >
    >
    > As all of you know, I have Primary Peritoneal
    >Cancer. This cancer Has only recently been
    >identified as its OWN type of cancer, but it is
    >essentially Ovarian Cancer.
    >
    >
    >
    > Both types of cancer are diagnosed in the same way,
    >with the "tumor marker" CA-125 BLOOD TEST, and they
    >are treated in the same way - surgery to remove the
    >primary tumor and then chemotherapy with Taxol and
    >Carboplatin.
    >
    >
    >
    > Having gone through this ordeal, I want to save
    >others from the same fate. That is why I am sending
    >this message to you and hope you will print it and
    >give it or send it via E-mail to everybody you know.
    >One thing I have learned is that each of us must take
    >TOTAL responsibility for our own health care. I
    >thought I had done that because I always had an annual
    >physical and PAP smear, did a monthly Self-Breast
    >Exam, went to the dentist at least twice a year, etc.
    >I even insisted on a sigmoidoscopy and a bone density
    >test last year.
    >
    >
    >
    > When I had a total hysterectomy in 1993, thought
    >that I did not have to worry about getting any of the
    >female reproductive organ cancers. LITTLE DID I KNOW.
    >I don't have ovaries (and they were HEALTHY when they
    >were removed), but I have what is essentially ovarian
    >cancer.
    >
    >
    >
    > Strange, isn't it? These are just SOME of the things
    >our Doctors never tell us: ONE out of every 55 women
    >will get OVARIAN or PRIMARY PERITONEAL CANCER. The
    >"CLASSIC" symptoms are an ABDOMEN that rather SUDDENLY
    >ENLARGES and CONSTIPATION and/or DIARRHEA.
    >
    >
    >
    > I had these classic symptoms and went to the doctor.
    >Because these symptoms seemed to be "abdominal", I
    >went to a gastroenterologist. He ran tests that were
    >designed to determine whether there was a bacteria
    >infection; these tests were negative, and I was
    >diagnosed with "Irritable Bowel Syndrome". I guess I
    >would have accepted this diagnosis had it not been for
    >my enlarged abdomen. I swear to you, it looked like I
    >was 4-5 months pregnant! I therefore insisted on more
    >tests. They took an X-ray of my abdomen; it was
    >negative. I was again assured that I had Irritable
    >Bowel Syndrome and was encouraged to go on my
    >scheduled month-long trip to Europe.
    >
    >
    >
    > I couldn't wear any of my slacks or shorts because I
    >couldn't get them buttoned, and I KNEW something was
    >radically wrong.
    >
    >
    >
    > I INSISTED on more tests, and they reluctantly
    >scheduled me for a CT-Scan (just to shut me up, I
    >think). This is what I mean by "taking charge of our
    >own health care." The CT-Scan showed a lot of fluid
    >in my abdomen (NOT normal). Needless to say, I had to
    >cancel my trip and have FIVE POUNDS of fluid drained
    >off at the hospital (not a pleasant procedure, I
    >assure you), but NOTHING compared to what was ahead of
    >me).
    >
    >
    >
    > Tests revealed cancer cells in the fluid. Finally,
    >finally, finally, the doctor ran a CA-125 blood
    >test, and I was properly diagnosed. I HAD THE CLASSIC
    >SYMPTOMS FOR OVARIAN CANCER, AND YET THIS SIMPLE
    >CA-125 BLOOD TEST HAD NEVER BEEN RUN ON ME, not as
    >part of my annual physical exam and not when I was
    >symptomatic. This Is an inexpensive and simple blood
    >test!
    >
    >
    >
    > PLEASE, PLEASE TELL ALL YOUR FEMALE FRIENDS AND
    >RELATIVES TO INSIST ON A CA-125 BLOOD TEST EVERY YEAR
    >AS PART OF THEIR ANNUAL PHYSICAL EXAMS. Be forewarned
    >that their doctors might try to talk them out of it,
    >saying, IT ISN'T NECESSARY." Believe me, had I known
    >then what I know now, we would have caught my cancer
    >much earlier (before it was a stage 3 cancer).
    >
    >
    >
    > Insist on the CA-125 BLOOD TEST; DO NOT take "NO"
    >for an answer! The normal range for a CA-125 BLOOD
    >TEST is between zero and 35. MINE WAS 754. (That's
    >right, 754!). If the number is slightly above 35, you
    >can have another done in three or six months and keep
    >a close eye on it, just as women do when they have
    >fibroid tumors or when men have a slightly elevated
    >PSA test (Prostatic Specific Antigens) that helps
    >diagnose prostate cancer.
    >
    >
    >
    > Having the CA-125 test done annually can alert you
    >early, and that's the goal in diagnosing any type of
    >cancer - catching it early.
    >
    >
    >
    > Do you know 55 women? If so, at least one of them
    >will have this VERY AGGRESSIVE cancer. Please, go to
    >your doctor and insist on a CA-125 test and have one
    >EVERY YEAR for the rest of your life. And forward
    >this message to every woman you know, and tell all of
    >your female family members and friends. Though the
    >median age for this cancer is 56, (and, guess
    >what,I'm exactly 56), women as young as 22 have it.
    >Age is no factor.
    >
    >
    >
    > A NOTE FROM THE RN: Well, after reading this, I made
    >some calls. I found that the CA-125 test is an ovarian
    >screening test equivalent to a man's PSA test
    >prostate screen (which my husband's doctor
    >automatically gives him in his physical each year and
    >insurance pays for it). I called the general
    >practitioner's office about having the test done. The
    >nurse had never heard of it. She told me that she
    >doubted that insurance would pay for it.
    >
    >
    >
    > So I called Prudential Insurance Co., and got the
    >same response. Never heard of it - it won't be
    >covered. I explained that it was the same as the PSA
    >test they had paid for my husband for years. After
    >conferring with whomever they confer with, she told me
    >that the CA-125 would be covered. It is $75 in a GP's
    >office and $125 at the GYN's. This is a screening test
    >that should be required just like a PAP smear (a PAP
    >smear cannot detect problems with your ovaries). And
    >you must insist that your insurance company pay for
    >it.
    >
    >
    >
    > Gene Wilder and Pierce Brosnan (his wife had it,
    >too) are lobbying for women's health issues, saying
    >that this test should be required in our physicals,
    >just like the PAP and the mammogram.
    >
  • tinkerbell82
    tinkerbell82

    good luck ravyn...i hope it turns out to be nothing serious...my mom just had to have a hysterectomy after her doctor found a malignant tumor, she also had swelling and bleeding and at first they couldnt figure out what it was, but the time she had the operation the tumor was the size of a grapefruit. i'll be thinking good thoughts for you.

  • Odrade
    Odrade

    What??? You've been having these troubles for over a year and nobody has ordered a CA125? That makes me so mad. This test should be standard procedure for all women over 40--just like mammograms, and especially used when someone young has abdominal issues. I hope they find out what is wrong quickly. A friend of mine is going through a similar thing. They never gave her this test either until last week.

    ALL WOMEN: If you have persistent abdominal pain, swelling, recurrent pain mid-cycle or other weird stuff like that, INSIST to your doctor that they do this test. Please, don't skip reading Ravyn's attachment from Radner's book. Very important. This CA125 is NOT a standard test (though it should be), unlike the prostate screening PSA test, which is standard.

    Thanks Ravyn, for putting this up here.

    ((((((ravyn))))))) I'll be thinking of you.

    Odrade

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I smelled an urban legend, and I was right. This is what the American Cancer Society says about the CA-125 test.

    http://www.cancer.org/docroot/MED/content/MED_6_1x_CA-125_tests.asp?sitearea=MED

  • Odrade
    Odrade

    Jgnat, try talking to some Gyn Oncologists about that so-called "urban legend."

    The CA125 is NOT 100% effective as a diagnostic tool, but it is an important marker that should be used in conjunction with other tests.

    The PSA test is also FAR less than effective, but when it comes to penises, all tests are standard, "just in case."

  • wednesday
    wednesday

    I think the more tests the better. I think docs do not run test b/c of insurance co pressure. birth control pills are not covered, but viagria is?????? If u look close behind the people who are saying not to get the tests, it is often an insurance co. or funded by an insurance co. Be proactive, buy books, take charge of your health care.

  • Ravyn
    Ravyn

    whether or not the woman in the email had the high levels that is claimed in the email is really a mute point. 1 in 57 women will get ovarian cancer at some time in their lives. Some of the high risk groups are women who have relatives who have had ovarian cancer, colon cancer and breast cancer, especially mothers and grandmothers; women who have never been pregnant; women who have used talcum powder in their panties or in the genital area for years; and women who manifest symptoms that are not explained by other health issues. I have had swelling off and on for 3 years, and the year before that I had bleeding. I have lupus and they just kept putting me back on steroids. (which suppress my immune system and would leave me open for opportunistic diseases, like cancer.)

    the point is : (from the cancer.org site JGNAT quoted below) and I am at very high risk.

    " Fact:

    Debbie Saslow, PhD, director of breast and cervical cancer for the American Cancer Society, says CA-125 protein levels in the blood can be measured as a marker for ovarian cancer, but should not be used to screen for the disease. “The test is not appropriate for routine screening because of its poor accuracy; there are some harmless reasons CA-125 levels can be elevated, and not all women with an ovarian tumor will have an increased level,” she said.

    "Testing is recommended for women at very high risk, such as those with a family history of the disease," she added. The CA-125 blood test is routinely used for women diagnosed with ovarian cancer to measure their response to treatments, as well as to watch for recurrence. "

  • Emma
    Emma

    Ravyn,

    I'm thinking of you and hoping you'll find nothing out of the ordinary. Please keep us updated.

    Emma

  • Billygoat
    Billygoat

    You should be worried. But why oh why have you let it go this long???

    My friend at work has had the same issues as you for the last TWO years. She felt because she was not sexually active that she didn't need to be getting her annual OBGYN visits. She hadn't had one in TEN years!!! At the prompting of all of us in the office, she finally had her visit. The doctors were mortified as they found 15 lbs of tumors in her uterus. (She had complained of weight-gain and bloating in her tummy.) They could barely do the pelvic exam without hurting her because the tumors were so impacted! Tests revealed that the tumors were benign and she goes into surgery in two weeks to get them removed, but I am still astounded at how many women don't heed their body's warning systems. *shaking head* DO NOT IGNORE THEM!!!

    Andi

  • Dansk
    Dansk

    (((((((((((Ravyn))))))))),

    After all that you've been through I'm absolutely gutted - but try, if you can, to not fear the worse. A swelling, lump and bleeding does not necessarily indicate a tumour but you are right to be concerned and to take action.

    I know I speak for everyone here when I say we wish you a happy outcome and that our love is total.

    Love,

    Dansk

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