by AntiEntropy 49 Replies latest jw friends
@jookbeard you're not conceding though that this is an undertaking of larger proportions than say publishing on Amazon. That is my point. No expert can do it in an evening either.
There's far more involved than I think you're willing to admit.
I get that everyone is bent that it hasn't happened yet, however that has no bearing on the actual requirements of the task at hand. They are what they are and they take time.
Am I correct in assuming that many Koreans also have some English as a second language? If so, there is bound to be a lot of non-copyrighted ex-JW literature that could be translated into Korean.
While I understand the desire to publish Crisis of Conscience in Korean, copyright clearance appears to have been overlooked - or worse, trivialized. Copyright is copyright - regardless of what individuals may think of the copyright holder.
To Simon and other who worry...
I've consulted with Deborah by mails also and I have korean lawyers who let us go forward.
I've always think and think again what Simon wrote someday :
I translated it into Korean many years ago
"Becoming an ExJW should be a process, a stage, and not the final destination that some people make it. We should all aim to become Ex-Ex-JWs and leave everything to do with the WTS behind us. Some will find that easier than others and some have to stick around longer because of friends and family but I think it should be our goal."
ExJW가 된다는 것은 과정 또는 단계여야지, 어떤 사람들처럼 목적지가 되어서는 안됩니다. 우리는 Ex-Ex-Jws가 됨으로 WTS(워치타워협회)와 관련된 모든 것들을 과거의 것들로서 떠나 버리도록 노력해야 합니다. 어떤 이들은 보다 쉽게 그렇게 하지만 어떤 이들은 친구들과 가족 때문에 좀더 오래 [Ex-JW의 상태를] 떠나지 못하고 더 머물러야 하기도 합니다. 하지만 저는 우리의 목적지가 [Ex-Ex-JW가 되어] 떠나는 것이어야 한다고 생각합니다.
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Of course not everyone in 'apostatesville' is nice or friendly. We have come across a few people who have been so obsessed with fighting the WTS for so long that it seems that they have even forgotten what they are fighting about. They are no concerned with helping people but just getting revenge for their own bruised egos. All they know how to do now is fight and it has almost become a hobby to them. They stopped fighting the WTS a long time ago and have become charicatures of the apostates that the WTS warns it's members about.
물론 '배교자마을'(안티증인 사이트 사회를 희화한 표현)의 모든 사람이 좋고 정다운 것은 아닙니다. 때론 WTS(워치타워협회)와의 싸움에 집착한지 너무나도 오래되어서는 투쟁의 대상을 망각하는 사람들도 있습니다. 그런 사람들은 사람을 돕는 일이 아니라 단지 자신들의 상처입은 자아(자존심)의 복수를 하는 일에만 관심이 있습니다. 그 사람들이 할 줄 아는 것이라고는 싸움뿐이어서 싸우는 것이 거의 취미가 되어 버렸습니다. 그들은 WTS와의 투쟁을 오래 전에 그만 둔 사람들로서, WTS가 증인들에게 조심하라고 경고하는, 그런 배교자의 전형적인 부류가 되어버렸습니다.
I don't intend to become like that. There is no point dedicating your life to hurting the WTS - if you do, it means that they are still hurting you, still influencing your life and still have power over you. It's OK to stick around to get some answers or to do something to help others but if people are replacing the WTS with AntiWTS then I think there is something wrong. You have to let it go and leave it behind and live a happy life. That is and always will be the best revenge on the WTS.
저는 그런 사람이 되지 않으렵니다. 협회(WTS)를 공격하는데 인생을 바치는 것은 아무 소용이 없습니다. 만약 그렇게 하실 생각이라면, 그건 협회가 여전히 여러분에게 상처를 주고, 여전히 여러분의 삶을 좌우하고, 여전히 여러분 위에서 권력을 휘두르도록 하는 것을 의미합니다. 정보를 얻기 위해, 사람들을 돕기 위해 [이곳에] 머무르는 것은 괜찮습니다. 하지만 [단순히] 증인생활(WTS)이 안티증인생활로 대치되는 것이라면 그것에는 뭔가 문제가 있다고 저는 생각합니다. 그냥 내버려둬야 합니다. 지난 일이 되어야 합니다. 그리고 행복한 삶을 살아야 합니다. 그렇게 하는 것이 바로 지금도 그리고 앞으로 언제까지도 우리가 WTS에게 할 수 있는 최고의 복수가 될 것입니다.
Dear copyright holder: How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
Statement by the copyright holder. See below:
Although it would be interesting to read the 2008 additions, they are not important.
Dumbest statement I've read on this topic. If the guy worked on revisions there must have been a reason. Perhaps you were a GB member and have special insight he didn't.
I think I will bump this on 06/05/16.
Not long
Kate xx
KateWild I wouldn't bother until 06/052017, because nothing is going to happen in the meantime,
Hadriel when someone makes a subjective opinion on this subject which we all have a right to do, this just an internet forum you seem very quick to jump on people with insults and name calling,something I've come to expect from you and all the more fuel to the jw's who could be lurking here laughing at us and reinforcing the their views on us, why dont you calm down?
I applaud the Korean translation effort. Good work!
Having helped with the Spanish translation of the then latest English Edition of CoC--given chapters to translate by Ray F. and then being asked to proof-read, and submit corrections--I can tell you that putting together a translation of a book consisting of several hundred pages, wasn't an easy task.
At least make the book available in digital format for Kindle's through Amazon.com or e-readers through Barnes and Noble. That could be accomplished in little time, with little money put forward, and the CRH would start seeing money come in as the digital sales start happening.
