(How) Will The Slow and Subtle WT Internal Shift Affect Us?

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  • slimboyfat

    In terms of words of content I would be surprised if they published in 2018 as much as 10% of the material published in 2000 or earlier.

  • Betheliesalot

    Just declare all pioneers as "infirmed" and they can quit counting hours. But I bet they will not stop counting the money...

  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    They had to drop the types and antitypes. Everything had already been fulfilled and nothing happened. King of the North? apparently an overlapping "bad guy". I hate to say it, but I found the missing one: the one about cutting up the servant girl and sending her body to the 12 tribes (I can't remember the names right now). They always said it had to do with hospitality. Since I wasn't invited into the inner circle you all will never know how it could be made to fit. HAHA.

    Relearning all we knew has discouraged a whole lot, and more than will admit it.

    As for the CLAM, there is material, but I would not call it "studying", it is all presented for us to parrot. I actually used to enjoy working up talks and trying to make them interesting. Now all I do is read, and don't like it. The one or two "with householder" demos I got I despised. I failed to show when I had the 1914 talk from the Reasoning, just after the "new light", I just couldn't do the old material and recognized BS when I saw it.

  • _Morpheus
    As for the CLAM, there is material, but I would not call it "studying", it is all presented for us to parrot.

    Your right, thats MUCH different than the wt study has been for the past 50 years. What was i thinking...

  • Dagney

    Interesting thread.

    From a corporate standpoint, they are having an efficiency review to see what they can cut, and spin to keep the flock believing they are special so they will stick around. They have always adjusted pioneer hours down as the need arose. They have reduced meetings but still count the segments as full meetings so the counts remain the same.

    It's not a kinder gentler organization. They are just making changes so they can remain relevant. I had dinner with cantleave last night and we were remarking about the very low publisher counts in the congregations we know. It will be interesting how they will spin the low numbers to still look like growth.

    We used to talk, when I was in, about how the "society" has to change. But it is like a huge ship turning...it is slow and takes time. These former friends may be thinking that the ship is finally now turning. Interesting times.

  • I Faded Twice
    I Faded Twice

    I think Morpheus and slim are the same person. Yen and Yang.

  • I Faded Twice
    I Faded Twice
    BTW What is clam?
  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    ''BTW What is clam?''

    C.L.A.M. , is the new meeting format which replaces the theocratic ministry school.

    Christian, Life and Ministry.

  • I Faded Twice
    I Faded Twice

    Thanks for the new light Beth Sarim :)

  • Vidiot
    Diogenesister - "This is just one of the things that make me believe the decision makers at the top are real believers and not nefarious, malevolent pretenders."

    What, you can't be both? :smirk:


    Seriously, though, I agree.

    The mistakes that the WT leadership consistently makes could only be kind of boners that full-on True Believers would pull...

    ...if they were completely convinced of a) their own rightness, and b) that God's got their back no matter what.

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