Being "Smart" will not prevent one from following the WTS

by onacruse 43 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    doodle-v:

    Another key aspect of thought control involves training members to block out any information which is critical to the group.

    I like the way you put that in such general terms. As an illustration, I could just as well have titled this thread "Being Smart will not prevent one from following JWD." There is a social dynamic in this forum, just like everywhere else, and to a greater or lesser degree "assent and conformity" are rewarded; with a very few exceptions, anything pro-JW is immediately trounced. I'm not saying that this is good or bad...but the potential is here to continue along in the same "suppress my mind in deference to the group." The emotional "pay-off" is the same as when we were JWs; different color, same canvas. Perceiving our own self-worth, regardless of what anybody else says about us, is perhaps the most difficult challenge we will ever face.

    bebu:

    so many JWs were intelligent after all!

    I totally agree. One brother with whom I had many an extended conversation was Brock. No subject was verbotten. hehe, he not infrequently got in trouble with the elders because he incorporated many non-WTS thoughts into his talks...I loved it, he brought a smile to my heart! I hope he and I have a chance to visit again, someday.

    heinanderen:

    finaly i see that they are the ones that must fill guilty

    If I may offer another alternative: Insofar as we acted according to our own conscience, neither we, nor they, need feel guilty. imho "blame-assignment" is irrelevant, whichever way it flows. We are, and can be, nothing more than the sum of our emotional and intellectual capacity, at that moment. One major exception: there are those who perniciously and selfishly subvert the growth of others. Those people do deserve to be slapped down, and slapped down hard.

    I'm trying to catch up with y'all Later

    Craig

  • nowisee
    nowisee

    dear craig,

    what a great thread this has been. so much food for thought.

    and i totally relate to and agree with your comment, "perceiving our own self-worth, regardless of what anybody else says about us, is perhaps the most difficult challenge we will ever face."

    i know it is the challenge i face day by day, sometimes moment by moment. peer pressure, outside opinions and external authorities all exert influence.

    so what IS the answer? how do we conquer this challenge? how can we be sure we are on the right course? and how do we find the strength to "stay the course"? how do we achieve the victory within our own minds?

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    nowisee:

    how do we achieve the victory within our own minds?

    And that's the $64,000 question. I've embarked on a little explanation of my own recent thoughts, over in the "epiphany" thread. fwiw

    Craig

  • Cameron
    Cameron

    Someone said,

    "It's Not What you Think, It's How You Feel...that matters"

    I wonder if Ray would have said it something like this:

    "It's what we are as persons that matters."

    Don

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