JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

by Gorbatchov 62 Replies latest jw friends

  • Anders Andersen
    Anders Andersen

    "Primarily for internal use".... funny guy that Michel van Hilten.

    • All the JW.org signs on each jw building
    • Every ragazine points to more (bullshit) on that site
    • A worldwide campaign to point as many people as possible to the website
    • Publishers are encouraged to use the kiddie videos with children of their bible studies
    • Etc.

    So how could this possibly be intended for 'internal use'?

    Unless of course he meant that this website is to be shoved up the GB's behind...that would be internal use that makes sense :-D

  • Gorbatchov
    Gorbatchov

    Even JW's in the Netherlands are aware that gay people are equal. There are here some gay brothers, walking at the conventions with lady style bag's. The great escape is that they are gay, but don't practice it. That is allowed here and accepted by the local JW's.

    Most JW's here know that it is not so smart to publish this kind of movies. It will have some internal impact here also for the society. It feels so wrong.

    That's the different with JW's in country's like the US. Dutch JW's see their religion more like a lifestyle.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    Doubtfully Yours: Where is the freedom of speech and freedom of religion?
    It's for JW children only. I cannot think of any other tactful way to convey our religious belief that homosexuality, although it's viewed as good/normal/acceptable in many of today's societies, the God of the Bible does not approve. End of story.
    DY

    No, it is not the end of the story...it is the beginning of the story.

    Freedom of speech and freedom of religion ends at the point that it harms other people.

    As far as how to tactfully teach intolerance and hate of other groups to children, regardless of whether or not those beliefs originate in a hate-filled book that some people think is written by God himself, that really is a conundrum, isn't it? Even making vanilla cartoons directed to children doesn't seem to pass the human rights test, does it?

    And here is the ultimate irony about "freedom of speech/religion"...it was the Jehovah's Witnesses themselves who played a huge role in striking down Prop 8 back in 2010 when California tried to outlaw same-sex marriage.

    How Jehovah's Witnesses helped kill Prop 8

    Oddly, a TV ad that aired during that time has a striking similarity to the anti-gay JW video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgjcgqFYP4



  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    I haven't the stomach to watch this bit of nonsense, but doesn't the video show the child being told to tell her friend with two mommies that they won't be in the paradise? They are attempting to recruit their children to teach their hateful beliefs, that's as public as it gets.

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Here's another article about it, making the rounds on social media.

    It doesn't just teach homophobia, it subtly encourages a JW child to tell her young classmate her mommies are bad and won't get into Paradise if they don't "leave it behind".

    http://www.newnownext.com/anti-gay-jehovahs-witness-video-teaches-kids-that-lgbt-people-can-change/05/2016/

  • cofty
    cofty
    doesn't the video show the child being told to tell her friend with two mommies that they won't be in the paradise?

    To be fair no it doesn't. The child is encouraged to tell her friend about the paradise and the animals and the resurrection.

  • Anders Andersen
    Anders Andersen

    ...and then, in the next scene they conveniently left out, when the kid asks how to get to Paradise, she'll hear something like 'obey the 7 dwarfs, don't marry a woman'.

    Imagine a rusty old van with no plates near a playground. A shady looking guy offers candy to some little kids. "There's more candy at my place!" he says.

    He did nothing wrong, right? No need to be outraged even when we know he's a registered offender?

    We all know how that JW indoctrinimation would continue.

  • Sanchy
    Sanchy

    I don't condone at all any of the JW doctrines, and I consider myself an agnostic. Having said that, I believe it is their right to publish this video. This is the difference between the US and most of the other "western" worlds. Our very core foundation was based on "freedom of expression" and "freedom of religion". The gov cannot and should not interfere with religious doctrines. Anyone pushing for limits by the gov should remember that one day those very limits may be placed on the things they believe to be "right".

    Few things to consider:

    -Everyone here knows JWs are fundamentalist that take the bible very literally and claim that it is the ultimate authority of law. EVERYBODY here knows what the bible says about homosexuality.

    -A parent has the right, which no gov or external entity can replace, to teach moral and religious standards to their children. Whether you like it or not. The child will become an adult one day and will make the decision to live by those parental standards or not, as have many ex-JW's once they grew of age.

    -Most of you know that bringing outside pressure from the community or gov to speak out against JWs or their doctrines only reinforces them to believe it is Satan's corrupt world persecuting them, as they believe to be "prophesied" in the bible. If you were a true JW at some point in your life, then you should know this. Going after them by pressure only reinforces them.. if you want change, two major factors are needed: Patience and Love. No way around it my friends, history has proved it.

  • wizzstick
    wizzstick

    To be fair no it doesn't. The child is encouraged to tell her friend about the paradise and the animals and the resurrection.

    Yes...but we all know the implication.

    "For your two mummies to get into paradise they will need to change!"

    Which in the real world would make them be very unhappy given they aren't gay by choice.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    ..and then, in the next scene they conveniently left out, when the kid asks how to get to Paradise, she'll hear something like 'obey the 7 dwarfs, don't marry a woman'.

    It doesn`t take a Genius to know where the conversation is going,in a real life situation..

    The kid with 2 mommies is going to ask Questions..

    Sophia will spill the beans about whats really going to happen to her 2 mommies..

    Comply or Die..

    No Pandas or Paradise for Gay Mommies..

    .

    The Homophobic WBT$ Children`s Video is Disgusting..

    It`s Intellectual Abuse specifically directed at Small Children..

    Apologists For It,Deserve All the Negative Comments They Get..

    .

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