'covid isnt real'

by joey jojo 55 Replies latest social current

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  Rocketman123

  The vaccines haven’t been proven to reduce the risk of death at this point.

  or infections so you know more than thousands of virologists around the world.

  ummmm..... interesting ???
  
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  MeanMrMustard

  Risk is a multi-faceted calculation. It weighs the risk of death with the risk of losing a livelihood, with the risk of damage to the mental health of one's children, with the loss of a decade in economic growth (The money we're printing now is a massive tax on 95% of the population, and the wealth drained will take a decade to recover, more if government continues to grow). Also, the risk of postponed treatment of other diseases.

  If you evaluate all of this against a 98% of surviving COVID, you can start to see the problem with the current generation - fearful, sheltered, unrealistic.

  It is easy to see why someone might exclaim, "It isn't real!" What is meant is "The reaction, what they are telling us, the fear point, is not real. It is not justified."
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  Anony Mous

  @rocketman: please point to any longitudinal study on the vaccine. All we have is instances of young people not dying when they got the vaccine, because they weren’t dying from it before. Pfizer recently reduced their efficacy of their vaccines for the Alpha and Delta variants to just over 50%, basically a coin toss whether it works or not, which is the same rate as the original data on dying of a COVID infection with severe symptoms. Sinovac had long been proven not to work at all. There is also an increase in blood clots and other heart disease associated with the vaccine to the point it is currently more dangerous for a young person to receive the vaccine than getting COVID, which was already on par with getting struck by lightning for people under 55.

  All that is easily found in the data.
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  Rocketman123

  What is meant is "The reaction, what they are telling us, the fear point, is not real. It is not justified."

  I would have to agree with to that to a certain extent Mustard.

  The payback is economies slowly returning and government issued benefits that will have to be repaid. (taxes)
  

  The virus may be over but there is going to be lingering consequences.

  You really cant fault the governments for doing what they did, it was in good intentions.

  At least we can say we will be more prepared for the next pandemic virus that comes around and I hope it doesn't in are lifetime.
  
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  Rocketman123

  Here is some info to what is happening in the US.....

  • COVID-19 cases are rising in the United States, and the delta variant has been identified in all 50 states.
  • The delta variant is now responsible for more than 58 percent of new coronavirus infections in the United States, and there’s been an increase in hospitalizations.
  • Of people hospitalized, a majority are either unvaccinated or partially vaccinated.
  • Even though vaccines offer different ranges of protection, experts say getting fully vaccinated is crucial.

  The United States is now dealing with the delta variant of the coronavirus, a highly contagious variant that was first identified in India in December.

  As with previous variants, the delta variant has spread to many countries across the world, including, most notably, the United Kingdom, where it’s now responsible for around 99 percent of new cases.

  The United States first announced that it had diagnosed a case with the delta variant in March this year. It’s now the dominating variant nationwide, making up more than half of all new infections in the country.

  Confirmed infections with the delta variant have also been doubling since June. The average is more than 24,000 a day, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

  This rise has been attributed, in part, to the delta variant being an estimated 60 percentTrusted Source more transmissible than the alpha variant, according to recent research.

  Additionally, areas with low vaccination rates are more likely to see a surge in infections.

  Low vaccine uptake driving up infections

  “The unvaccinated population is at high risk for infection. If this variant continues to move quickly, especially in areas of low vaccination rates, the U.S. could see a surge in SARS-CoV-2 infection,” said Dr. Miriam Smith, chief of infectious disease at Long Island Jewish Forest Hills Teaching Hospital in Queens, New York City.

  CDC Director Dr. Rochelle WalenskyTrusted Source issued a warning on this potential surge earlier this month.

  In a press briefing, she said preliminary data suggested that 99.5 percent of the people who died from COVID-19 since January were unvaccinated.
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  stan livedeath

  Covid -19 will now always be with us.

  Here in the UK--tomorrow all the restrictions will be lifted--hooray. No more masks !

  Except me.

  The next wave has already started--so the next lockdown wont be far behind.

  Its just as well covid isnt real--or we really would be in trouble.
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  pistolpete

  Its just as well covid isnt real--or we really would be in trouble.

  Because a REAL PANDEMIC would be like the Spanish Flu that infected 500 million people world wide and killed about 100 million according to many estimates.

  That's 20 Percent died of those infected.

  Imagine if a REAL PANDEMIC KILLED 20 PERCENT OF 8 BILLION.

  That means about 1,600,000,000 people would have died in a year. And NOT JUST THE ELDERLY. but YOUNG HEALTHY PEOPLE AS WELL, No one would escape and Masks wouldn't help.

  Or the Black death that killed according to some about TWO THIRDS OF THE WORLD POPULATION.

  The rotting corpses killed several million more and it killed the economy so bad that millions more died of starvation because all the farmers were dead so the survivors had to learn how to plant and harvest. Also it was rare to find a cow or a pig or chickens. The people were so hungry they almost extinct these animals.
  
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  TD

  MMM
  

  Statements like "it's not real" or "it's the flu" are often imprecise ways of conveying a thought...

  I think that is a good way to express the difference between practical and technical definitions.

  In a similar vein, the claim that the Spanish Influenza of 1919 was "worse," is definitely true in a practical sense (In terms of the total number of deaths) but it is not true in a technical sense. Modern medicine did not exist in 1918/1919 and if you want to make an accurate comparison, than you have to look at Covid 19 cases is areas where medical treatment was nonexistent.

  The Spanish Influenza in its most virulent form had a mortality rate of just over 4%, which is roughly comparable to Covid 19 when it is left untreated.

  (My sources for the influenza mortality rate are: Flu: The Story of the Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918 and the Search For the Virus that Caused It by Gina Kolata and America's Forgotten Pandemic: The Influenza of 1918 by Alfred W Crosby -- I don't know where people are getting their information from lately)
  
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  DATA-DOG

  If it comes from the CDC directly then it’s going to aid the CDC narrative… It’s like Faucci saying there was no Gain Of Function research when the paper trail of patents provides irrefutable proof.

  Now, Dr. Steven Quay, on of the most cited Scientists in the world released the results of his Bayesian analysis and the odds against SARS COV-2 coming from nature are 10 to the 80th power against it…. So it’s 99.8% certain it’s man-made.

  • An overly conservative Bayesian analysis shows beyond a reasonable doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is laboratory derived. There’s a 99.8% probability SARS-CoV-2 came from a laboratory and only a 0.2% likelihood it came from nature
  • None of the 80,000 samples from 209 different animal species has been found to contain SARS-CoV-2
  • Of the first 259 cases in China, not one was traced back to animal contact. All were human-to-human transmissions. This is the equivalent of going to Las Vegas and flipping a coin and getting heads 259 times, which is virtually impossible
  • When one combines these two statistical anomalies, the real likelihood of the virus coming from nature is less than one in all the atoms of the universe — 1080 — which is a very, very large number, making it virtually impossible

  
  Here we have another expert who is not in the pocket of the CDC or Big Pharma sharing vital information.
  DD
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  DATA-DOG

  I’m sure another lockdown is planned… I know it is. The WEF and the UN are very clear about their intent to rapidly change the World by 2030, and they publish and share their plans. Hell, they all hang out once a year at their big Cult festival.

  When Biden says he wants a Task Force to go door to door he’s not joking. When they say they will remove infected persons to another facility “for their own good” they aren’t joking.

  It doesn’t matter if it’s a Climate lockdown or Delta, or Zeta or whatever they choose to call it, they want lockdowns to be the new normal.

  Populism = BAD…😤 Globalism = GOOD!!!!😬

  OBEY, OBEY, OBEY, OBEY, OBEY…😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

  DD