The political left, perfectly captured in one short video exchange

by Simon 51 Replies latest social current

  • JaniceA

    Does Donald Trump “perfectly represent” conservative thinking today?

    Whereas the college student is still forming their thoughts and viewpoints as I’ve never seen or heard of her before, Trump is 70+ and as the guy elected by conservatives, is a real representation of conservatives today, not a random one off.

  • LV101

    Trump might be called a lot of names but he understands business something that the goons in the past yrs. have been beyond deficient in. They couldn't run their own lives monetarily -- thus their life-long political careers.

  • LV101

    I have to admit I've voted both sides of the isle -- too many here only review one side -- very cult-WT! It's a lot like religion they're born into their political parties.

  • Simon
    Hillary bought and controlled the Democratic party; her people ran it; it was a "by any means necessary" policy in effect.

    The fact that she seems so determined to keep in the public eye and point blame for her loss elsewhere makes me think she's actually stupid enough to think that she will be successful if she runs again and is planning to. That's why they have kept their grip on power of the DNC

    Natives, environmentalists and socialist thinkers on one side. Farmers, ranchers, the working class and business owners on the other side.

    There's increasing awareness that the people protesting the environment for instance don't really give a crap about it, it's just part of the protest industry. Same with natives - there's a group that is vocal but why do people imagine they really represent the majority?

    This is why we have elections, to give people a chance to speak from the safety of a voting both who may be afraid to voice their concerns because of the mob.

    I think the split is 3 ways: class, the rich vs the poor and the law-abiding workers and the takers. Yes, I said takers, because some people just want handouts.

  • hoser

    I wouldn’t say rich vs poor Simon. Not in all cases. The entitled are a different bunch than the entrepreneur who earned it on his own.

    Maybe the divide the entitled vs the non entitled.

    Natives entitled. Not all of them though so it is not fair to generalize

    environmentalists entitled

    socialists definitely entitled.

    Farmers most not entitled but those who inherited wealth some are

    Working class most not entitled but some are

    business owners mostly not entitled

  • LV101
    Yep -- the law-abiding workers pay and the top 7-10% for all the takers. So many takers have gone off on disability (tax free!) and every other scheme possible. It's quite a system and so sad for the honest, working, person. It's hard to believe what I've heard from employees of social welfare -- you wouldn't believe! Doesn't pay for a young couple to work when the non-working actually fare better in many situations. Crazy and wrong.
  • Still Totally ADD
    Still Totally ADD

    Black is white and blue is red and on and on and on. All I know is either side is totally right and all this does is divide people even more. I see this crap and it sicken me. Still Totally ADD

  • scary21

    Lov101.. I too have seen things, unbelievable things .You are so right in that not working ,ends up better then working for some....and with a little job under the table they have time and money to go on 3 or 4 vacations a year. I have posted before on some of those things.

    Really can you blame a smart person that knows how to work the system ? I don't know.... Some 3 or 4 generations have never brought home a pay check. After reading Atlas Shrugged, I can see how we need people that work. We can't have one person pulling the cart with twenty people in it.

    You know, I have always been socially liberal . But fiscally I just can't get there.

    I have seen first hand where the left is going...I have always had friends and family on the left but they have turned into hateful, And I mean hateful things spewing out of their mouths..One sided ...won't let anyone else tell their side, people. We used to be able to talk before they became obsessed with hate for Trump so I just don't talk, or try not to talk about politics anymore. Except maybe a tiny comment on facebook not enough to get defriended . YET !

    I watched the video and I feel bad at what they are willing to give up ( free speech ) to be right.

  • ttdtt

    I'm for taking these Entitlements away RIGHT NOW!

    1. State and local subsidies to corporations: An excellent New York Times study by Louise Story calculated that state and local government provide at least $80 billion in subsidies to corporations. Over 48 big corporations received over $100 million each. GM was the biggest, at a total of $1.7 billion extracted from 16 different states, but Shell, Ford and Chrysler all received over $1 billion each. Amazon, Microsoft, Prudential, Boeing and casino companies in Colorado and New Jersey received well over $200 million each.

    2. Direct federal subsidies to corporations: The Cato Institute estimates that federal subsidies to corporations cost taxpayers almost $100 billion every year.

    3. Federal tax breaks for corporations: The tax code gives corporations special tax breaks that have reduced what is supposed to be a 35-percent tax rate to an actual tax rate of 13 percent, saving these corporations an additional $200 billion annually, according to the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

    4. Federal tax breaks for wealthy hedge fund managers: Special tax breaks for hedge fund managers allow them to pay only a 15-percent rate while the people they earned the money for usually pay a 35-percent rate. This is the break where the multimillionaire manager pays less of a percentage in taxes than her secretary. The National Priorities Project estimates this costs taxpayers $83 billion annually, and 68 percent of those who receive this special tax break earn more than $462,500 per year (the top 1 percent of earners).

    5. Subsidies to the fast food industry: Research by the University of Illinois and UC Berkeley documents that taxpayers pay about $243 billion each year in indirect subsidies to the fast food industry because they pay wages so low that taxpayers must put up $243 billion to pay for public benefits for their workers.

    6. Mortgage deduction: The home mortgage deduction, which costs taxpayers $70 billion per year, is a huge subsidy to the real estate, banking and construction industries. The Center of Budget and Policy Priorities estimated that 77 percent of the benefit goes to homeowners with incomes over $100,000 per year.

    7. The billions above do not even count the government bailout of Wall Street, while all parties have done their utmost to tell the public that they did not need it, that they paid it back, or that it was a great investment. The Atlantic Monthly estimates that $7.6 trillion was made available by the Federal Reserve to banks, financial firms and investors. The Cato Institute estimates (using government figures) the final costs at $32 to $68 billion, not including the takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which alone cost more than $180 billion.

    8. Each major piece of legislation contains new welfare for the rich and corporations. The Boston Globe analyzed the emergency tax legislation passed by Congress in early 2013 and found it contained 43 business and energy tax breaks, together worth $67 billion.

    9. Huge corporations that engage in criminal or other wrongful activities protect their leaders from being prosecuted by paying huge fees or fines to the government. You and I would be prosecuted. These corporations protect their bosses by paying off the government. For example, Reuters reported that JPMorgan Chase, which made a preliminary $13-billion mortgage settlement with the U.S. government, is allowed to write off a majority of the deal as tax deductible, saving the corporation $4 billion.

    10. There are thousands of smaller special breaks for corporations and businesses out there. There is a special subsidy for corporate jets, which cost taxpayers $3 billion a year. The tax deduction for second homes costs $8 billion a year. Fifty billionaires received taxpayer-funded farm subsidies in the past 20 years.

  • LV101

    Entitlements and career politicians -- keeps the wheels turnin'. Attorneys have a saying -- too hard to make it rich in the law profession (legally - hard work!) so get into politics and voila! They aren't the only ones that go into politics to walk away multi millionaires. Too bad the taxpayers can't vote all this swamp waste out -- the slaves are kept in the dark and clueless.

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