THIS IS IT Tony Morris Identifies King of Norht

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  • nowwhat?

    Recently Putin was open to the idea of looking into the persecution of Russian jdubs.

    The shits gonna hit the fan when he hears about this. "THEY SAID WHAT?!!"

  • sir82

    Morris said Russia’s King-of-the-North “allies” cooperated with them in the biggest war games since

    the Soviet Union. According to this article it was China that joined Russia in war games in 2018.

    Good point. They have no fears about naming Russia - why not come out and just say "China"?

    Work is banned in both locations.

    Hmmm...follow the money. Maybe the WTS has some sort of financial reason for not explicitly calling out China by name?

  • menrov

    "Daniel chapter 11 and we’re going to read verse 40 or half of it"

    So, old verse and only half of it ..really???

  • ScenicViewer

    From the OP...

    Its in the 2nd of a three part serries about the JW Annual Meeting (Oct 2018). Go to minute 52.

    I'm a bit lost at finding the video. I see just one video of the 2018 Annual Meeting; Anthony Morris isn't in it at the 52' mark. Can someone post a direct link or provide more information on how to find it?

  • Gorbatchov

    Clear that they follow the current political correctness. They always did starting with Knorr. I believe the WTS is an American instrument, linked to some government institution. My opinion for a long, long time.


  • truthlover123

    For years Russia has been the problematic KOTN... Morris harkens back to 1914 and how astonished the world was when something happened, then he picks a quote out of 1975!!! THE YEAR all things were to end, when people sold homes, businesses, furniture, etc. My mate quite a government job in 1974 to go full time pioneering and leave his pension behind.... and they say they did not indicate 1975 ws IT??? Yes they did and it was right from the convention platform. They say we mis understood - really? Ruin lives and no apology - so what makes this announcement any more important when the scriptures say - no man knows the date or hour, not even the Son.,, along with don't be afraid.. afraid !

    Three weeks ago an elder in his talk said all false religion had pedos in them- I think we really should be afraid...

  • OrphanCrow
    Scenic viewer: I'm a bit lost at finding the video. I see just one video of the 2018 Annual Meeting; Anthony Morris isn't in it at the 52' mark. Can someone post a direct link or provide more information on how to find it?

  • johnamos

    [Daniel 11: 36 “And the king (KOTN) will actually do according to his own will, and he will exalt himself and magnify himself above every god; and against the God of gods he will speak marvelous things. And he will certainly prove successful until the denunciation will have come to a finish; because the thing decided upon must be done…45 And he will plant his palatial tents between the grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will have to come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.]

    Tony talks about Russia being the KOTN, but he made no mention of Gog. The attack from Gog is something that JWs expect to come upon them in the near future.

    [11-15-13 WT – In the near future, Jehovah’s apparently vulnerable people will come under attack from the modern-day “Assyrian,” whose intent will be to wipe them out. The Scriptures refer to that attack as well as the attack of ‘Gog of Magog,’ the attack of “the king of the north,” and the attack of “the kings of the earth.” (Ezek. 38:2, 10-13; Dan. 11:40, 44, 45; Rev. 17:14; 19:19) Do these represent separate attacks? Not necessarily. The Bible could be referring to the same attack under different names.]

    As can be seen it is said that the attack from Gog is the same as the KOTN. Okay, hold that thought.

    Also at some point in the near future JWs expect the UN to get authority and enter the holy place.

    [Revelation Climax – As John soon learns, the time will come when the UN will act with considerable authority. Then it, in its turn, “goes off into destruction.”]

    [6-15-12 WT – Any power it (U.N.) has comes from its member nations, especially from its key backer, the Anglo-American World Power. (Rev. 17:10, 11) But it does receive authority to act as a king to carry out a specific task, one that triggers a chain of events that will change history.]

    [5-1-99 WT - Since the start of the great tribulation is yet future, is the “standing in a holy place” still ahead of us? Evidently so. While “the disgusting thing” (U.N.) made its appearance early in this century and has, thus, existed for decades, it will take a position in a unique way “in a holy place” in the near future.]

    Tony has his listeners read Rev 17:15-17. As can be seen verse 17 states that the ten kings give their power and authority to the wild beast (U.N.). That goes along with what they said in the 6-15-12 WT and Revelation 17:13.

    [Revelation 17: 13 These have one thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast…17 For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.]

    At the point that the wild beast (U.N.) gets that power and authority it is then at that time considered to be the 8th and final king.

    [Revelation 17:11 And the wild beast…it is also itself an eighth king…and it goes off into destruction.]

    [1-15-00 WT – Here the apostle John mentions seven kings, representing seven world powers—Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, and the Anglo-American dual world power. He also sees “an eighth king” that “springs from the seven.” This eighth king—the last one that John envisions—now represents the United Nations. John says that this eighth king “goes off into destruction,” after which no further earthly kings are mentioned.]

    Another player that still has to come on scene it the KFIC. He is said to come about the same way the 8th king (U.N.) does, which should tell you that they are one and the same.

    [Daniel 8:23 “And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, there will stand up a king fierce in countenance and understanding ambiguous sayings. 24 And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power. And in a wonderful way he will cause ruin, and he will certainly prove successful and do effectively. And he will actually bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of the holy ones. 25 And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken.]

    As can be seen the KFIC brings to ruin the holy ones.

    Another player said to be given authority as does the wild beast/8th king (U.N.) and is also said to conquer the holy ones as does the KFIC, is the wild beast from Rev chapter 13.

    [Revelation 13:5 And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given it, and authority to act forty-two months was given it. 6 And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his residence, even those residing in heaven. 7 And there was granted it to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation…19: 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur.]

    Oh but wait, there is still another…

    [2 Thessalonians 2:4 He (MOL) is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god…8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence.]

    As can be seen the MOL, KOTN, KFIC, wild beast ch. 13, wild beast/8th king (as well as Gog) all come to their end by Jesus at Armageddon. Which means they are all on hand at that time, which means they are not all separate entities but all one in the same.

    So Tony, are the ten kings going to give their power and authority to the U.N. or to Russian?

  • Diogenesister

    ME: “First Russia was the KOTN, then it wasn’t, now it is again”

    JW: “oh no, that was the Soviet Union who was it’s Russia who is TKOTN”

    ME: “Listen, if we started calling Britain NOTTY ASH it would still be the same bleedin’country. Sheesh”.

  • ScenicViewer

    Thank you OrphanCrow. Giving it try now!

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