Arctic Ice Increasing

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  Village Idiot

  An ice extent graph showing the year 2015, to this date, in black. The measurements are in millions of square kilometers. This is in full context of the 35 year period of satellite measurements. 1980 is in blue indicating a much higher amount of ice back then. 2012 is an outlier year with a super melt.

  There are fluctuations in the year by year melt but the general trend, decade by decade, not 3 years like Perry showed, shows a massive shrink.

  It's going to keep melting until the whole ice cap disappears during summertime. When that happens (estimated between 2020-2030) it will have a major impact on our weather since open ocean affects the weather differently than an ocean covered with ice.

  Look forward to intensified floods and snowstorms (while, for a couple of decades, it's still cold enough to snow).

  
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  SecretSlaveClass

  Redvip how can you doubt overwhelming scientific evidence? How can you not trust science above all else? Your electricity is an advent born from of scientific facts. The food you buy atmthe supermarket grown with hydroponics - science. Cars - science. Planes - science. Eye glasses - science. Modern medicine - science. Get a clue and as DJS suggested, learn to read instead of only listing to what YOU AGREE WITH.
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  fulltimestudent

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  Yeah! I think I understand why!

  In Australia, we have the unfortunate situation where a sort of a 'Perry' is in control of the state. The current Prime Minister, one Tony Abbott, was educated in a Jesuit College and later trained for the priesthood in a Catholic seminary. Since becoming PM he has demonstrated an ideologically biased opposition to any steps previous governments have taken to overcome this climate crisis, all apparently based on a belief that god will not allow a human disaster. (sour smile).

  Which leads us to ask why is it that these fanatical christians think this way?

  You can read (and then think) about possible reasons in this Huffington Post Australia discussion. (I'd like to elaborate but I'm under a bit of pressure at the moment).

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/g-elijah-dann/christians-climate-change_b_3668179.html?ir=Australia
  
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  Village Idiot

  fulltimestudent:

  "Which leads us to ask why is it that these fanatical christians think this way?"

  Fundamentalist Christians tend to be politically conservatives. Conservatives, as part of their inborn temperament, do not care about people outside of their circle of family and friends nor do they care about the environment in general outside of their own backyards. They have neither a social conscience nor a sense of general responsibility for their actions and thus resent anyone telling them that something must be done on this or that problem.

  Once the irritating "We must do something about this" is communicated to them they spin forth a thousand and one excuses and falsehoods to justify themselves.
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  SecretSlaveClass

  VI:

  as always, well said!
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  Perry

  And here's another interesting find:

  
  

  Global population of polar bears has increased by 2,650-5,700 since 2001

  
  

  So far in my 52 years on this planet I have been told to fear the following:

  Armageddon by 1975, Acid Rain causing forests to disappear, Ice age predictions of the 1970's, Y2K, Texas turning into a desert due to global warming, etc., etc., etc.

  
  

  Time Magazine sums it up for me:

  
  

  
  
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  OUTLAW

  

  Polar bear status, distribution & population

  Current polar bear populations

  20-25,000
  polar bears worldwide (estimated)
  Source: IUCN/SSC Polar Bear Specialists Group
  
  19
  distinct sub-populations (see above map)
  
  60-80%
  of polar bears are in Canada
  

  Status by country

  • International: Vulnerable
  • Canada: Special Concern
  • Greenland / Denmark: Vulnerable
  • Norway: Vulnerable
  • Russia: Indeterminate, Rare, or Recovering, depending on population
  • United States: Threatened

  Timeline of polar bear conservation

  Before 1973

  • Several polar bear populations were decimated by unsustainable hunting by European, Russian and American hunters and trappers from the 1600s right through to the mid-1970's.

  1973

  • Canada, the United States, Denmark, Norway and the former USSR signed the International Agreement on the Conservation of Polar Bears and their Habitat, strictly regulating commercial hunting.
  • The US Government classified the Polar Bear under its Endangered Species Act (ESA).

  2005

  • The polar bear was upgraded from Least Concern to Vulnerable by the the IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group, based on the likelihood of a decline in the total global polar bear population of more than 30% within the next 35 to 50 years.

  2013

  • Ministers and other leaders from the five polar bear range states met in Moscow for the first International Forum on Polar Bear conservation. The leaders made significant commitments to address issues of polar bear habitat, research and trade. This event was supported by WWF.

  Today

  • Today, polar bears are among the few large carnivores that are still found in roughly their original habitat and range--and in some places, in roughly their natural numbers.
  • Although most of the world's 19 populations have returned to healthy numbers, there are differences between them. Some are stable, some seem to be increasing, and some are decreasing due to various pressures.
    
    Status of the polar bear populations in 2014
    • 3 populations were in decline
    • 1 population was increasing
    • 6 populations were stable
    • 9 populations were data-deficient (information missing or outdated)
      
  • Some populations are still hunted quite heavily, and their status is uncertain.

  In the future

  • By 2040, scientists predict that only a fringe of ice will remain in Northeast Canada and Northern Greenland when all other large areas of summer ice are gone. This "Last Ice Area" is likely to become important for polar bears and other life that depends on ice.
  • According to a 2015 study, polar bears are already beginning to move towards the Last Ice Area in response to reduced ice in the southern part of Canada's Arctic archipelago.
  • A projection of sea ice in the archipelago, supported by WWF, shows that much of the region is facing significant ice loss in the coming decades - with potentially serious consequences for polar bears.
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  Perry

  TEN GOOD REASONS NOT TO WORRY ABOUT POLAR BEARS

  
  

  False Alarm Over Polar Bears Exposed — Again

  
  

  Excerpt: As we reported this past August, noting Dr. Crockford’s research, the polar bear/endangered species card is certain to be a major play in the upcoming push for a new global treaty at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Paris this year. (See: "Desperate Dash of Global Warming.")

  “Given this situation, 2015 is likely to be worse than ever for polar bear spin,” says Crockford. "PBSG-member biologists and their colleagues will continue their frantic bids to stay relevant. Just keep reminding yourself that all the hype has very little to do with the conservation status of polar bears and virtually everything to do with the survival of the IUCN PBSG as an organization and the economic future of polar bear biologists and their ever-growing crop of students.”

  Isn't "science" fun?
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  bohm

  For all newbies, look at this graph. Suppose you had hired someone to invest your pension funds somewhere and this graph was showing your total pension funds over the past 5 years, would you say you were getting richer or poorer? Would you say he was doing a good job? Would you consider withdrawing your money ASAP before he blew it all away?

  

  According to Perry, the trend is actually up. If the above graph was showing your pension funds, you should be very happy since you were getting richer. Why? Because in 2012 it was lower than it was today, so it is going up.

  If you buy this argument, I have an awesome investment opportunity for you...
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  bohm

  redvip2000:

  Global warming is obviously real, but there really is no evidence that is caused by humans.I think sometimes we fail to realize that the earth is not static - it too evolves, and goes through difference cyclical stages

  Scientists are aware the earth is not static. That's why they have tried to quantify how the climate varies, for which reasons and by how much for the past 60 years. The conclusion is the CO2 content of the atmosphere is very important, and humans are increasing the CO2 content dramatically; you can then build models around what the impact of the added CO2 will be and compare to past historic trends. The conclusion is the current warming is caused by humans.