by slimboyfat 362 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
'scholar':
Poor old Neb was in the looney bin for seven literal years learning a valuable lesson about God's Kingdom of both literal and figurative application.
Wrong as usual. There isn't even a suitable time during Nebuchadnezzar's reign to place 7 years of inactivity.
Just popping in to say G’day !🙋♂️
Ozzie 🍷
Jeffro
It is true that 'the land of the Chaldeans' is still populated to this day and the 'prophecy' of Babylon's desolation—to the extent that it would remain uninhabited—was a failure. But Babylon's 70 years quite definitely ended when it was conquered by Persia in 539BCE. But thanks once again to 'scholar' (and Fisherman) for showing that JWs don't actually care what the Bible says when it contradicts their end-times dogma.-
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So if what you say about the prophecy of the 'land of Chaldeans' and of Babylon's destruction were not fulfilled so the prophecy about God's 'call to account the king of Babylon' also remained unfulfilled. Thus, according to your interpretation, the prophecy of Jer. 25:12 was a failure.
Babylon's 70 years could not have ended in 539 BCE for the conditions of its fulfilment were that Jeremiah's prophecy describing the 70 years was that there be a desolation of the land of Judah, a period of servitude to Babylon along with being an exile in Babylon. Clearly, these three specified conditions of the fulfilment of the 70 years were not met by the Fall of Babylon in 539 BCE but only in 537 with the Return of the Jews
scholar JW
Jeffro
Wrong as usual. There isn't even a suitable time during Nebuchadnezzar's reign to place 7 years of inactivity.
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OK So What was the significance and meaning of the 'seven times' applicable to Neb or is this also fiction or myth?
scholar JW
ozziepost
G'day to you!
scholar JW
‘scholar’:
OK So What was the significance and meaning of the 'seven times' applicable to Neb or is this also fiction or myth?
Poor ‘scholar’ still doesn’t understand the book of Daniel. So much for JWs being such great ‘Bible teachers’. 😂
Jeffro
Poor ‘scholar’ still doesn’t understand the book of Daniel. So much for JWs being such great ‘Bible teachers’. 😂
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Poor Jeffro cannot answer a simple question but his online blog regards Dan. 4 as just story with no prophetic or historical significance.
Unlike you, JWs at least teach both publicly and privately as superior Bible teachers.
scholar JW
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Given the intent and time of writing of Daniel, it is, of course, not necessary at all that the story would actually have any relevance to Nebuchadnezzar. Instead, Nebuchadnezzar is used as a literary device. Rather than being any kind of historical account, the story borrows elements from the Prayer of Nabonidus, but the story adds and changes various details for its own purposes.
In the broader context of Daniel, the significance of the ‘seven times’ actually alludes to the 49 (7 x 7) years from Jerusalem’s destruction (587 BCE) until the Jews were allowed to return to Jerusalem (538 BCE). The same period is referenced in Leviticus 25-26, and also corresponds to the ‘7 weeks’ of the 70 weeks of Daniel chapter 9.
Notably, the ‘jubilee year’ concept described in Leviticus falls not on the 49th year but the subsequent 50th year, corresponding to starting work on the temple foundations in 537BCE. Significantly, other than the oblique reference to the period from 587BCE until 537BCE in Leviticus (which scholars recognise was completed during the Persian period), the Bible never once mentions any year as a jubilee year, and there is no evidence that jubilee years were ever actually practiced.
HI Ozz,
Another ironic coincidence. I was watching Columbo episode “Carsini Wine” when you posted Cheers.
