as a kid i shared a bedroom with one of my younger sisters. i had her convinced that a little man visited us from somewhere above the wardrobe. poor kid had a lot of "demon trouble" a few years later. I wonder if it had anything to do with me?
I enjoyed your post earlier today about occhams razor and reality vs our imaginations getting the better of us. (just couldn't reply cos of the ten a day limit)
Help! the ghosts have nicked occhams razor!
Until I bought an isolated country property i'd never experienced anything i'd call supernatural. But at this old gold mine/ old aboriginal initiation site so much weirdness happens, and not just to me but neighbours for miles arround, I was propelled into finding out as much as i could by studiously reading up on everything from the way natural electical currents flow and the intereactions between earth trees and sky to ufo's (and the associated aviation and meteological sciences essential to understanding the subject) witchcraft, (black white and topaz - from Moses to Alister Crowley
Most of the things i've seen can and will one day be explained in scientifically acceptable ways. It must be so. Objects disaapear into thin air, objects appear out of the blue of that we are certain but why and how is something of a mystery. These things happen in such a way that they are clearly connected to the emotions and thinking of people. For example when i first camped thier I'd decided i was now an atheist. So, for a joke i'd raise my hands to the sky Moses style and ask for stuff to happen. Simple things at first "OK God how about sending some rain tonight the rainwater tank is empty and i want a shower in the morning." Well, that night it rains - big deal proves nothing, means nothing. Next night i go "OK God tonight i want to see some falling stars" That night i witness a great meteor shower over the ocean. I muck about telling the wife "see God gives me one wish a night"
.. then a strange thing happens .. from down the valley a light appears and floats fairly quickly up just above tree height (about 100ft) and over our heads. It was like a fiery brick tumbling through the air. We could see green and yellow flames flaring off it as it tumbled overhead and disappeared into the forrest behind us. I was shouting "look at that, just look at that" but Susan was frozen in her chair and couldn't turn arround. (she knew about weird stuff happening already but didn't tell me till i'd seen plenty myself, funny woman) Calculating it's likely landing in a heavily wooded part of the forrest i worried that we'd have a fire on our hands (nothing burns like a eucalypt forrest
So what was that thing? That was only the begining and my atheism soon became agnosticism as i let go of my answers and began collecting and enjoying questions. This land has large quartz seams and i've seen strange electrical effects i think are related to that but even the magical quartz doesn't make things levitate or pass through solid walls does it? When people arround here tell me they've seen the ghost of an old gold miner and all give me the same description what am i to think? (esspecially when my first comment to the wife when examining the old mines for the first time was that i could have sworn i'd seen a short old bloke with a big beard, rope belt etc... smiling at me .. do atheists see ghosts too? maybe i did maybe i didn't but so many visitors have told me they've see that same image it's uncanny. - Witnesses even - and they aren't supposed to see cheerful ghosts just demons! lol)
I've seen and experienced so much and always tried to adopt a scientific approach. I learnt a lot from studing witchcraft so, perhaps neively, fear no dark thing. (in theory at least) The phenonema (i don't know what else to call it) definitly intereacts with people. It is boosted by positive emotions (like on ghost busters lol) When we're having a party and laughing and carrying on is when things start disappearing etc.. Some things i can't prove. Like when I was testing a new bow and arrows and fired one at a tree just 50ft away. The arrow dissappeared mid flight and has never been found. I've dropped things off my work bench and had them disappear before hitting the ground (very frustrating. i have very quick reactions but the ghosts or whatever catch things quicker than i can .. little bastards.
I've read about people with ghosts they call "the borrowers" and i guess that's one of the things i'm blessed with lol. The wife and daughter sometimes loose jewellry, shoes and even dresses (usually thier best) Once the wifes rings dissapeared from camp and reappeared on the daughters dresser in Sydney (450 kms north) One the badgammon 'doubling dice' disappeared from camp and dropped in front of the wife as she exited her shower in Sydney. Once i joked that i'd put an extra saucage on the bbq for Jack (the old minor ghost) as sooon as i dropped the snag on the hot plate it levitated into the air and before i could catch it it disappeared. The next day i found it in the bottom of the Hibashi (lebanese bbq) so you recon a saucage can pass through cast iron? geez, i know it was made in taiwan but give me a break .. that was the end of atheism for me ... the truth is out there i tell ya!
enough for now
unclebruce who plays with he knows not what.
Edited by - unclebruce on 3 January 2003 11:49:41