Also in this thread you refer to muslims as retards... you have made many many threads using the most vulgar language in regards to muslims... literally 50 or more times... yet all I am doing is stating a fact that is a law in france... and I only did so twice. In the same topic matter to prove a point that was being discussed. Not being argumentative since that's not allowed just stating facts
Je Ne Suis Pas Charlie - I just ain't Charlie.
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cofty
Also in this thread you refer to muslims as retards...
Eh? Have you lost your marbles?
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wallowindawn
Cofty it says
The issue, let's not forget, is a power struggle between different factions of retards who think everyone else should be as retarded as they are.
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prologos
Je ne suis pas "Charlie" non plus,
The only depiction of Mohammed in that paper is the one I saw on this site, balls and dripping penis exposed.
Is this speech? it leaves me speechless. it is not even funny. This is neither picturesque debate nor discussion.
Is this what "Charlie" de Gaulle fought for?
Of course the pattern traced by the bullets, the marks by the lashes in Saudi Arabia are not art either, totally wrong, to be opposed by all means, but
prodding a provoked paria may be allowed, but is not smart.
another reason for my "non-plus" is, --my life is too precious to be sacrificed on any altar.
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Simon
This is the only thing I have ever posted about along those lines
Really?
1: In France you can deny all other genocides that have taken place with no legal action. Yet not the genocide on Jews and this is somehow fair. Muhammad did exist.There is no similarity to unicorns. To play on people's aversion to religion on this site as a way to prop up a point is not honorable.
2: Had Charlie Hebdo made a comic stating Hitler didn't massacre Jews and legal action would be taken against them in France due to holocaust denial laws. Yet they can draw muhammad naked and all of a sudden that's ok. Kind of strange
So at least 3 or 4 out of about 15 posts. That seems to be someone with an agenda.
Also in this thread you refer to muslims as retards... you have made many many threads using the most vulgar language in regards to muslims... literally 50 or more times
First of all, I did not refer to muslims as retards. I referred to terrorists who think it's worth killing people over a drawing as retards. What do you think they are? Mensa candidates?
It seems you definitely have an axe to grind.
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digderidoo
Interestingly Charlie Hebdo sacked a cartoonist in 2008 for a sentence stating that Sarkosy's son would 'go a long way in life, this lad' by converting to judaism and marrying his girlfriend, a Jewish Heiress. Maurice Sinet was asked to apologise by his editor, he refused and was sacked.
Sinet won a 40,000 euro wrongful dismissal claim.
If freedom of speech includes a right to offend you'd think it should be equally applied. Not that i'm condoning a history of accusations from Jewish groups towards Charlie Hebdo of anti-semitism, I condemn it along with its history of bigotry across the board.
Just because we condemn terrorist attacks on the streets of Europe it doesn't mean we have to align ourselves with the bigotry of the victims.
The phrase 'je suis ahmed' would be more appropriate.
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wallowindawn
Simon... you are being ridiculous.... The two posts were made in threads regarding this subject matter. You are trying to label me an antisemitism as you think this is some forms of damming sentence on this board . Anyone without an Axe to going can clearly see my point.
Now let's take a look at all the threads you made about muslims. Talk about an Axe to grind. Worse yet no one really thinks that you were referring to two sets of terrorists. You were referring to muslims in general.
Not to mention you arrogantly use the word retard as if it is somehow acceptable to make fun of those who have intellectual disabilities.
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One Last Kiss
Holy smokes, there seems to be an extensive issue in people befuddling and interchanging the meanings of racism, belief/ideology, slander and freedom of speech.
You can call me stupid. You can call my beliefs stupid. You can't say I'm stupid because I'm white.
In the EU anyone is free to be offended by what Charlie Hebdo prints regarding the world's 4 major religions, others are free to find it funny, uninteresting, irrelevant or any one of a hundred different reactions.
I used to find it deeply offensive every time the local mosque pushed literature through my door passing all sorts of judgements on my country and the people in it. But that same freedom of speech covers them too.
So basically, get over it.
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EdenOne
I don't care a bit for Charlie Hebdo, and their vulgar and often deliberatedly offensive cartoons. Anyone targeted by their cartoons is entitled to feel offended and hurt. BUT ... when a bunch of murderers feels justified to "avenge" an offense made to their cherished religious item to the point of assaulting and killing other human beings, that crosses an unacceptable line. That becomes an agression to my freedom of speech as well, because, where do you draw the line? A Saudi Arabian Iman just declared that snowmen are a form of idolatry. Will you give up making a snowman with your kids because someone, somewhere, considers it a sin deserving a death penalty? An attack on Charlie Hebdo for the reasons it happened is an attack on all of us who believe in the ideal of free speech - even if we don't like what they drew in there, and I don't.
As put by Voltaire: "I don't agree with what you say, but I'm willing to die for your right to say it".
Eden
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