Why do so many people believe that jesus is god? (page 6)

Bleep

What is God's name in the English translation?

Bleep

If Jesus was equal to God then why did Jesus have to die for us sinners?

JustAThought

Bleep

If Jesus was equal to God then why did Jesus have to die for us sinners?

JESUS didn't have to die. He CHOSE to die.

JustAThought

Bleep

So if Jesus was equal to Jehovah. Then It would be logical to say that Jehovah the creator of all things can die if he wants to?

LittleToe

Let God out of the box, Bleep. He can do anything He wants to.

Jesus surrendered his spirit. Funny, I don't know many men who have that kind of choice over life and death.

pomegranate

>>If Jesus was equal to God then why did Jesus have to die for us sinners?<<

I believe two scales needed to be rebalanced because of Satanic rebellion:

The man Jesus (Perfect) - The man Adam (Imperfect)

This earthly scale above was rebalanced by the death of the PERFECT MAN Jesus on earth. Life for life.

The God Jesus (True God) - Satan the Devil (False God)

This heavenly scale above was rebalanced by the death of the prehuman TRUE GOD Jesus in heaven. His life as YHWH in heaven was taken by Father YHWH. (see Abraham and Isaac) Father sacrificed his Son in heaven.

Please note BOTH conditions satisfy life for a life in heaven as on earth. Both scales become rebalanced.

JustAThought

Bleep

So if Jesus was equal to Jehovah. Then It would be logical to say that Jehovah the creator of all things can die if he wants to?

The answer to the question is yes.

Remember, God sees (and would experience) death as it truly is.

We see death as an ending of existence. God see death as it

really is, ... a transition from life on one plane of existence to a

different plane of existence ... or non-existence ... as He (God)

deigns.

If, as you say, God is the Creator of all things, it follows logically

that He has even set up the parameters on death, ... and that He

He has set up these parameters so that He could experience

death, ... yet, still Be, ... and still be God.

JustAThought

pomegranate

I believe:

YHWH Father and YHWH Son are TWO VERY DIFFERENT beings.

It was YHWH Son who died, NOT Father.

Edited by - pomegranate on 8 August 2002 18:14:4

LittleToe

I agree with Pomegranate, although the phraseology should be more precise, since one is the exact representation of the other.

They are two differant persons.

pomegranate

Here, have you ever seen this indication in the Bible of TWO YHWH's:

Gen 19:24
24 Then the LORD (YHWH Son) rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah--from the LORD (YHWH Father) out of the heavens.

Interesting eh?

Why do so many people believe that jesus is god?

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