OMG! The world is worse than ever! This system can't last! Violence is increasing! Wait, what's that you say?

by sir82 39 Replies latest jw friends

  • SingleCell
    SingleCell

    7 billion people on earth owing their lives almost completely to finite resources which man learned to extract in the last 150 years.

    And these aren't the 'last days'? Come now!

    The post-Roman nation-state system is about to collapse on it's own weight ... so these temporal statistics mean precisely nothing :)

    JWs are correct in effect, IMO.

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    World powers come and go. Sometimes their collapse is even ugly. It's still not the end of the world.

  • DJS
    DJS

    sir82, spot on. These types of statistics/data have been presented on this site numerous times to show that we are in the best of times. The Dark Lords will spin it either way. And SingleCell, WTF? Are you serious or joking? You make broad, scary assertions absent any actual data. Typical. Sir82 provided real data. At least you are making it clear where the single cell is located. There is so much data to support sir82's assertions. Wanna see a helluva lot more? Or do scary prophecies rock your boat and you don't want to be confused by the facts.

  • DJS
    DJS

    How about this 'temporal statistic' dumbass: Do you know what they called the typical 35 year old human for 100,000 years??? Dead. Deceased. Do you know what they called the typical 35 year old human, including the average 35 year old American, in the year 1900???

    Dead. Deceased.

    Chorination/disinfection of water and wastewater supplies followed a few decades later by antibioltics were two of the primary reasons life expectancies surged post 1900.

    So which time period would you dumbasses want to live in? If you pick anything pre-1900 you are most likely dead right now. Unless you are under the age of 35 and then you might have a few more years left.

    The air, soil and water are cleaner now than they were 20, 50 even 75 years ago in most if not all of the industrial countries. There are problems, but cleanup continues unabated. Developing countries have some issues, but China and others are showing strong commitments to ending pollution.

    In most industrial nations there are more trees now than there were 100 years ago. And the cyber world is an infant; we shall see greater improvements to the environment in the future. There is a ton of data which states the same thing.

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    DJS, in 1900 most people aged 30 could expect to live another 35 years: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005140.html

    Please don't propagate that misunderstanding of how life expectancy works.

  • DJS
    DJS

    Apognophos,

    I'm not. A lot of those obviously died when very young. Either way, those were real humans and they factor into the numbers. It is the same now; those who live to 40, 50, etc. have beaten the curve and gotten past childhood diseases, etc. I think we all know that. I listed average life expectancies. You are correct with your adjustment on those who are still alive and who make it to a certain age level. Thank you for the clarification.

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    In any case, I agree that conditions are getting better. And while we may be running out of oil, we are moving towards other fuel sources. Solar power is still being refined. And when people get serious about it, we will probably see a lot of movement towards putting up windmills for wind power, and exploring other options. Maybe public opinion will even start to swing back towards nuclear power. Man has a tendency to bumble through one situation after another, despite his lack of foresight. We're the most successful species on the planet in terms of altering the environment to suit our needs, and that's not going to come to an end just because nation-states collapse, if indeed that happens.

  • SingleCell
    SingleCell

    It's fairly obvious DJS.

    Technology took 1 billion to 7 billion people onto the planet in 100 years.

    Predicated on finite resources.

    It ain't rocket science!

    - earth and life destroying weapons exist

    - men are idiots

    - finite resources, multiple nation-state groups == ?? peace?

    The Bible predicts a one world government system channeled through a singular monetary system coming about after the collapse of the post-Roman nation-state system. No, I'm not joking.

  • cofty
    cofty

    The Bible predicts a one world government system channeled through a singular monetary system coming about after the collapse of the post-Roman nation-state system.

    The bible predicts nothing. It is a ridiculous collection of failed ramblings. You can read into it anything you want.

    The world is getting better and better. Read some social history.

  • sir82
    sir82

    Lovely - A cross between a one-world government, black helicopter, Bilderberger nut-job and a JW.

    The worst of both worlds.

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