It is a great thing you are doing , even if I cannot understand a word of it ...Power to your elbow!
Great campagne in Portugal (ex-JW)
by TJ Curioso 63 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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LoisLane looking for Superman
TJ Curioso, I believe you and your group of active ex-JW's in Portugal are being a great source of accurate information for your JW countrymen.
Who of us knows, who will read your brochure and who will not?
I would think most in Portugal were Catholic, and told by Watch Tower New York, that JW's must now shun their Catholic friends and relatives once they become baptized.
To give your people accurate information, that this American based religion, is full of lies and cover-ups, gives your countrymen a chance to decide for themselves, what they want to do with their own lives.
I say Bravo for you! You are a Hero!
LoisLane
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frogonmytoe
I speak Spanish and can understand some of this (although I DO know it isn't Spanish) it looks great!
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EdenOne
I'm yet to see it in the flesh ....
Eden
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apostate tizzy
Never a Jw,
"This is not a Spanish speaking forum dude, or havn't you noticed"
Is extremely condescending, hence my comment, which I stand by.
You are free to think whatever you wish about my reply never a Jw, your opinion of the appropiateness of it, is of absolutely no concern of mine.
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OUTLAW
This is not a Spanish speaking forum dude, or haven't you noticed ?
Is there an English translation ?....Villiage Girl
I'm really disgusted with posts that show what ignoramouses native English speakers can be......oppostate
What a pathetic comment from Villagegirl.....apostate tizzy
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It`s a good looking Pamphlete..
It just needs to be translated into English..
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oppostate
OUTLAW get the friggin laughing dog out of that post!
The post wasn't in a language other than English?
THE FRIGGING POST WAS IN ENGLISH!
I Like to tell you what we've been doing these past few days here in Portugal (ex-JW). We create a brochure and printing, so we can send to the maximum of congregations in Portugal. Some individuals were also covered in this campaign.
The title of the pamphlet is: "When will the Kingdom arrive?"
The brochure presents in chronological order, the false expectations of Jehovah's Witnesses about the coming of the Kingdom and shows how they were wrong.
Can't you read English?
The post was in English about a Portuguese brochure that shows great initiative and creativeness.
You and the Villagegirl should get together and go back to school, not preferably the Theocratic (Pseudocratic) Ministry School.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU XENOPHOBIC?
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scary21
Great OP. Thanks for letting us know what is going on in your country. Come on people, even with out a translation we pretty much know what it says. lol
Sherry
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OUTLAW
THE FRIGGING POST WAS IN ENGLISH!.....Oppstate...
Chill out man..LOL!!..
The Pamphlete Posted wasn`t in English..
It`s a good looking Pamphlete,it would be nice to know what it says..
.Can't you read English?
No..
I only Read and Write Chinese..Which makes me Hungry..Then I order Chinese Food..
Which Makes me Read and Write more Chinese..
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...You Need More Beer In Your Diet..
.........It Might Calm You Down..
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oppostate
All right, here's a quick translation of the Portuguese leaflet.
Please note that English isn't my first, second nor third language
so the phrasing may not be up to "native standards":
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When will the Kingdom come?
Wondering about the future is a sincere human desire. Knowing what the future will bring can enable us to be better prepared to face it and make the most appropriate choices now.
Christians also have this yearning to know what the future will bring, even more so because Jesus instructed them:
"Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness..." (Matthew 6:33)
“You must pray, then, this way… Let your Kingdom come..." (Matthew 6:9, 10)
For about two thousand years Christians have obeyed this command. They’ve prayed and looked forward to the arrival of this Kingdom. Even when Jesus was still with us in his physical body, his followers asked him:
"Tell us, when shall these things be?" (Matthew 24:3)
[Jesus, meeting with his disciples on the Mount of Olives, prophesies about the future destruction of Jerusalem]
“Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” (Acts 1:6)
Jesus didn’t rebuke them for asking that. But notice how he answered them:
“...these things must take place, but the end is not yet.” (Matthew 24:6)
“It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons…” (Acts 1:7)
Note that he didn’t tell them a date. Quite the contrary, for Jesus made it clear that it would not be for them to have knowledge of dates ("times", "seasons”).
But then, didn’t Jesus indicate a time or a season by telling them:
“... and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled” (Luke 21:24)
But consider this, could it be that this prophecy was not fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem? After its destruction in 70 CE, Jerusalem ceased to make sense as the center of Jewish worship. Its role in the unfolding of God's purpose came to an end.
Therefore , wanting to determine what these "appointed times of the nations" means can be a futile effort.
Some may say, this Scripture could enlighten research on the meaning of those appointed times:
“Concerning this salvation, the prophets … made a diligent inquiry and a careful search. They kept on investigating what particular time or what season the spirit within them was indicating concerning Christ.” ( 1 Pet. 1:10, 11 )
And so, wouldn’t it then be also worthwhile to try to find the "season", that is, an approximate date for the coming of God's Kingdom?
The following list may let us see where this research led the Bible Students, now known as Jehovah's Witnesses { 1 } :
{1} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses
1877: Christ's kingdom would hold full sway over the earth in 1914; the Jews, as a people, would be restored to God's favor; the "saints" would be carried to heaven.
1891: 1914 would be "the farthest limit of the rule of imperfect men."
1904: "World-wide anarchy" would follow the end of the Gentile Times in 1914.
1916: World War I would terminate in Armageddon and the rapture of the "saints".
1917: In 1918, Christendom would go down as a system to oblivion and be succeeded by revolutionary governments. God would "destroy the churches wholesale and the church members by the millions." Church members would "perish by the sword of war, revolution and anarchy." The dead would lie unburied. In 1920 all earthly governments would disappear, with worldwide anarchy prevailing.
1920: Messiah's kingdom would be established in 1925 and bring worldwide peace. God would begin restoring the earth. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other faithful patriarchs would be resurrected to perfect human life and be made princes and rulers, the visible representatives of the New Order on earth. Those who showed themselves obedient to God would never die.
1922: The anti-typical "jubilee" that would mark God's intervention in earthly affairs would take place "probably the fall" of 1925.
1924: God's restoration of Earth would begin "shortly after" October 1, 1925. Jerusalem would be made the world's capital. Resurrected "princes" such as Abel, Noah, Moses and John the Baptist would give instructions to their subjects around the world by radio, and airplanes would transport people to and from Jerusalem from all parts of the globe in just "a few hours".
1938: Armageddon was too close for marriage or child bearing.
1941: There were only "months" remaining until Armageddon.
1942: Armageddon was "immediately before us."
1961: Awake! magazine stated that the heavenly kingdom "will, within the twentieth century, cleanse the entire earth of wickedness."
1966: It would be 6000 years since man's creation in the fall of 1975 and it would be "appropriate" for Christ's thousand-year reign to begin at that time. Time was "running out, no question about that." The "immediate future" was "certain to be filled with climactic events ... within a few years at most", the final parts of Bible prophecy relating to the "last days" would undergo fulfillment as Christ's reign began.
1967: The end-time period (beginning in 1914) was claimed to be so far advanced that the time remaining could "be compared, not just to the last day of a week, but rather, to the last part of that day".
1968: No one could say "with certainty" that the battle of Armageddon would begin in 1975, but time was "running out rapidly" with "earthshaking events" soon to take place. In March 1968 there was a "short period of time left", with "only about ninety months left before 6000 years of man's existence on earth is completed".
1969: The existing world order would not last long enough for young people to grow old; the world system would end "in a few years." Young Witnesses were told not to bother pursuing tertiary education for this reason.
1971: The "battle in the day of Jehovah" was described as beginning "[s]hortly, within our twentieth century".
1974: There was just a "short time remaining before the wicked world's end" and Witnesses were commended for selling their homes and property to "finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service."
1984: There were "many indications" that "the end" was closer than the end of the 20th century.
And now the latest literature refinements { 2 } seem to point to the year 2035 as the deadline for the end of the "system of things", arguing that Noah preached for 120 years until the Great Flood came. Leaving us with the idea of this new date by drawing parallels to our present day and adding 120 years to 1914.
When this date arrives and nothing happens, maybe they’ll study the arguments of Isaac Newton, who pointed to the year 2060. { 3 }
What does the Bible say about this habit of trying to schedule a time for the end of the "system of things"? Note that the Bible couldn’t be clearer on this:
" …He [Jesus] said: “Look out that you are not misled, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time is near.’ Do not go after them.” (Luke 21:8 )
{ 2 } The Watchtower December 15, 2013 , on p . 14-19 Article : " More than ever we need to be vigilant".
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Leaflet No. 1 - May 2014
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@TJ: The portuguese text says 70AEC it should be 70EC.
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