Maybe that Angel flying in mid-heaven is Jesus? He has to start counting time according to the GB
"How do we demonstrate our support for the arrangements made by Jehovah’s organization? One important way is by always putting our confidence in the ones whom Jehovah and Jesus are trusting to lead us in our preaching work. There are many activities or causes in the world today that could vie for the attention of those taking the lead among us."
Hmm, Jehovah and Jesus seem pretty trusting dependent on these men…almost as if they are in subjection to them too!
"The Teaching Committee of the Governing Body oversees the preparation of all spiritual programs for the instruction of Jehovah’s people earth wide. How thankful we can be for the provisions that are made for us to enjoy wholesome teaching at our meetings every week of the year!"
Yes, how thankful that the Teaching Committee just gave themselves a pat on the back!
"Like those who took the lead in the first century, Christian elders who oversee the preaching work today are devoted “to the ministry of the word.” (Acts 6:4) They rejoice greatly at the progress that is being made in the preaching of the good news locally and throughout the world. (Acts 21:19, 20) They do not set out endless rules and procedures. Instead, they follow the Scriptures and the leadings of God’s holy spirit as they make arrangements that are needed to help the preaching work go forward."
What planet are these writers living on?
"How can we show our individual support for Jehovah’s arrangements? One way is by being in subjection to those taking the lead. (Heb. 13:7, 17) This starts right in our own congregation. Do our comments about the elders build respect for them and their office of oversight? Do we encourage our children to respect these faithful men and to look to them for Scriptural advice? Additionally, do we discuss as a family how we can use our finances to support the worldwide work through our donations? "
Bottom line: Subjection leads to Donations.
Forgot to add: "Daniel also saw “someone like a son of man,” Jesus, being given oversight of the earthly part of Jehovah’s organization."
Did they forget the part on Matthew 28:18, that says,"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." But they are saying Jesus only oversees the earthly part? And even then not since his Resurrection, but 1914?
@jgnat... good one
it does say EARTHLY ORG.. jesus is part of heavenly org .. ?
Lol @ jgnat!!!!
jgnat - Nice catch! Now I don't think for one second they planned it out to look like that, it is almost subconscious how these tools think so much of themselves!
So......here is the million dollar question. How do I deprogram the wife around the time of these meetings? I mean, the thing is full of assumption that is blindly accepted to begin with.
This association between the heavenly and "earthly" organization of God, is asticking point for everyone still in. How can a conversation about this be started in your guys opinions?
According to the scriptures Jesus is in charge of EVERYTHING because our heavenly Father wants it that way. So to go against that arrangement would be apostasy. If you do not recognize Jesus' position then you cannot have a relationship with the Father. The WTBTS is hopelessly lost in a jewish/christian man made hybridization. Jesus not being pictured is very telling. Jesus is a side point, given token mention so that JW.ORG can say that JW's believe in Jesus without just straight up lying.
I find in interesting that in the entire history of the WTBTS they have made one film with Jesus in it. The Photo-drama of Creation. That's it to my knowledge. I was raised a dub and have never seen one drama or watched one film about Jesus. You would think that the one true religion in all the earth, God's sole channel for salvation would make SOMETHING about Jesus....
Where did those quotes come from? I am behind on my magazine reading!
Isn't the dude on the throne Jesus?