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  • cedars

    Also, in addition to my above comment - surely "facts" by their very nature are irrefutable. How, therefore (in the minds of the authors of this website), could any "fact" justifiably differ from the "official view of the Society"??


  • Finkelstein

    Sounds like some bias indulgent spin doctoring to make the WTS. look clean as a whistle.

    Just about all of those individualized topics can make the WTS look corrupt or at least hypocritical upon analytical examination ..... for example.

    Because of what Jehovah's Witnesses expected regarding 1975 they are false prophets

    It wasn't a matter of what the Rank and file JWs expected it was the pressing insinuation calculated by the WTS. head bible theologian at the time

    namely Fred Franz, a highly indoctrinated insinuation that 6000 years of man's existence could be accurately calculated to October of 1975.

    A prodigious lie on all counts but expressed confidently by Franz and Nathan Knorr.

    A calculating marketing trick which was actually used by the WTS. previously just before the turn of the century .

    There is not one stitch of evidence from the Bible that this supposed time segment would mostly likely be the time when Armageddon would

    arrive but nevertheless the WTS. marketed this date relentlessly prior to that year.

    A shinning example of the commercialized false prophet/profit of what makes up the WTS.

  • sizemik

    Only a JW could quote this . . .

    Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.” (Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring “the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens.” - Genesis 6:17 ...
    What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in “the time of the end.” (Daniel 12:4) How should we respond to warnings we have been given?

    A nd then say this . . .

    In the parallel with Noah's days we see no basis to apply the 120 years that God placed between the start of that "time of the end" on our "time of the end".

    The whole purpose of the parallel is a timing issue regarding the two global mass slaughters. Why even mention time spans if no comparison is being made? The inference is clear, and WT doctrine needs at least approximate dates to high-octane the fear effect. They're essential . . . who of us weren't controlled by these very specific time frames?

    I think most unbiased observers would see a fairly weak application a very narrow "plausible deniability" window. He will generate an unintended negative effect as already mentioned. Bullshit of this calibre is best left to experts, who are probably wise enough to say nothing.

  • whathappened

    I have read most of these links and can not believe the dismissive attitude he has about the Watchtower Society's dishonesty and flub ups. He is living in his own little world.

  • gymbob

    Exactly Sizemik...That's also why they don't want members talking to anyone who has left, or people at the door who ask questions. It, "Will generate an unintended negative effect".

  • garyneal

    Hey, is this the e-watchman?

  • King Solomon
    King Solomon

    Cedars said:

    I love this little gem on the home page:

    Facts found on this site do not (always) reflect the official view of the Society.

    Heh, that's more self-incriminating than he probably intended, for if the Society's "facts" differ from those found on his site, then someone's "facts" must be wrong. With that statement, is he actually admitting to being an apostate, relying on not just his own interpretations, but using his own "facts"?

    It's like the old saying, "while people are entitled to their own opinions, they're NOT entitled to their own facts". Seems he wouldn't agree with that statement....

  • mrquik

    Every time the Society is shown to make any type of error of judgement underscores the truth that someone is responsible. If they are correct in their assertion that they are the only true religion guided by God himself, certainly God would not allow them to make so many greivous mistakes. He would have to violate the prime commandment of showing love for one another. If on the other hand, they are just another man made religion, why listen to this crap? I believe more and more within the organization will opt for the latter & leave.

  • steve2

    I remain guardedly suspicious of stuff on the web. It looks genuine but who knows for certain that this is a bona fide pro-JW site and is not just a front developed by ex-JWs or others.

    I wonder because, among other reasons, isn't the existence of these kinds of pro-JW sites frowned upon by the Watchtower Society?

  • darth frosty
    darth frosty

    This is the sadest piece oif shit I have ever read!!!

    Anyone read the refutation of harboring pedophiles?!?

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