Osiris, Odin, Jesus

by Chariklo 63 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  mP

  lv101

  firstly jesus wisdom is not original, its of course copied like the rest of the ot. ever wonder why xians nwver diwcuss the dead sea scrolls or the nagi hamaddi find? ever wonder why these writings are never discussed or read by wts or xians in general? ever wonder why the writings of the essene and gnostics are never presented at all in the wt or a!? the sim,ple answer without going into detail is we can find many of jesus sayings in there. we can also find his thinking in greek philospohy.

  paul tells us the athenians and other places of greek philosophy are fools, simply vecause he is wants us to ignore and avoaid them so we wont find the truth. the xians even burnt the great library in alezandria to destroy proofs thay show xianity to be a sham and not unique.

  back on topic. many of the psalms, proverbs are copies of egyptian poetry and hymns. search wiki theres an interesting aeticle that tells how one psalm is a direct copy of the hymn of aton. the ten commandments are nothing more than a copy of part of the egyptian book of the dead.

  nobody needs to take advice from a book that ppl say is good, but is full of violence, genocide, death,'racism, and laws that are disguating. if you want a look at what sort of society the bibnle would produce look at iran or saudi arabia. nobody woyld take advice from those religious leaders. islam and its laws is a relatively faithful copy of the judaic laws of moses. there is little difference, this cannot be denied. at its heart they are identical..
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  mP

  tec

  you need to read a bit more myth books and then follow the similarities with jesus. remember jesus is present as a man at times so things must be changed, like he can only die once. without the bias we can see lots of things match, numbers, names, places etc.
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  LV101

  Thanks for all this info, mP/appreciate. WOW! I will check out wiki.
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  mP

  lv101

  we can also learn from the masons. they too know that all gods are just the light or sun. they acknowledge the judaic, xian and muslim god are nothing more than personifications of the heavenly bodies.

  muslims of course worship allah and yet they will tell you he is the same god of abraham. allah is nothing more than a moon god. the crescent and star on flags and all mosques is a blatent give away. the satanic scriptures of rushdiue fame are some texts where mohammad was deciwved by satan and told that allah had three daughters who also were three moon goddesses of the old religion in mecca. for whatever reason probably to hide its pagan origins this stupid nonsense story was invented. allah is verymuch related to luna the word for moon in other languages.
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  tec

  you need to read a bit more myth books and then follow the similarities with jesus. remember jesus is present as a man at times so things must be changed, like he can only die once. without the bias we can see lots of things match, numbers, names, places etc.

  mP, take away all the things that don't match that people claim to match, and you aren't left with many things that do match. Just conspiracy and theories based on... I don't know; because scholars (other than internet scholars) don't corroborate the claims that these people make.

  Even general things like spring being resurrection, you said something above about a resurrection on Christmas (this is the middle of winter, not the end of it)... first: Christ both died and was resurrected in the spring, and he doesn't die every year. Second, using seasons as an analogy for people to understand death (death, darkness, evil) and renewal (life, light, good) would be a perfect way to help them get a grasp of deeper and more spritual truths. We understand the physical more easily than we understand the spiritual.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  mP

  lv101

  we see the same distinctions in many if nit all romantic langs, the male the is --el-- and the female is --la--. el as in the god el, or el in elder etc.in these cultures the sun is alwyas male and the moon female.

  funnily enough we have something similar in arabic script, whwre some letters'are'consideredmale and others female, which is related to when and how the or --al-- may be needed in front of certain words.

  if you really interestedyou will be amazed how much the sun and moon are part of our words and thoughts in everything we do. this disnt happen by accident, its simply ancient man showing respect for the gods.

  - days of the week

  - sun and son are homonyms, this didnt happen by chance

  -soul was a homonym for sol, did this hapen by chnace ?

  -the lords day is SUN day, chnace ?

  - hours from horus

  -month and minues from moon

  -sun rise from SUN and RA

  - sun set from SUN and SET the egytpian god of the night etc

  practically all our chronological measures pay homage to the sun and egypt.

  the more you lool the more strange coincidences you will find. these didnt all happen by chnace. a few times maybe. but not when its this organised on this scale.

  while the catholic church are scum, they are more'honest than the jw.'all churches have crossed, and solar disks with golden arms. these'are'of course the sun plain and simple. st peters itself has an obelisk of ra in its very center. the masonic layout of washington dc also has a obelisk or phallus the washington monument.

  the last supper by da vinci itself has astrological messages within it. the apostles are grouped together in groups of three like the seasons. there are plenty of websites that go into further detail about this.

  jesus rulingbthe kingdom on earth is just the sun ruling with the twelve signs of the zodaic. job 38 confirms the jews believed in astrology. jospehus who was royalty and the son of a high priest also says there was a zodiac circle in the temple of jerusalem. the four signs of ezekiel and the signs of the apostles are the same creatures. they of course match the four cardinal zodiac signs, lion=sun, bull=aries=spring etc.
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  mP

  tec

  not quite tec, you have just read ppl who have bad info or bad explainations. we see the same'about the bible, there are litwrally thousands of religions. just because one website or book you have read doesnt satisfy your curiosity doesnt make another also wrong. it may have other info to present. you juat dont want to search because you knjow if you look you will find a truth that is very different.

  like i just said in a previous post josephus himself admits the temple in jeruslame had a zidaic, the twelve tribes represented the signs of the zodiac and so on. are you saying jospehu s didnt know his stuff ?
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  mP

  tec

  there are many matches in jesus and the solar stories, you just nit pic because you want too fool yourself into dellusion. the stories share a common story, they tell of tye sun being bnorn and giving us light and war,th and food and life. darkness is the suns enemy, and darkness is also cold and death. saviour gods always die on a cross or tree which are the same thing in the end. this symbology is because the sun passes the southern cross. because jesus ismpresented as a man they shifted the day of his death to passover. big deal one little movement. you dont give any imagination or attempt to show that jesus is presented as a man and a sun god, thus the story needs to be altered otherwise its nonsense.

  xmas is the day of jesus birth for xians, the date according to the bible is not given nor is it important.the connection with the birth of the sun is what counts. mithra is also the sun and is also born on that day. celebration days may chanage slightly but the purpose is the same. all big religious celebrations are about the seasons and the sun and moon. all big jewish holidays happen on the full moon for example. this aint chnace.
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  frankiespeakin

  Chariklo, C.J. Jung did a lot of research on Mythology be cause they do express ideas from the deeper unconscious part of man, understanding that these stories as projections from the unconscious into consciousness.

  http://www.carl-jung.net/collective_unconscious.html
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  tec

  saviour gods always die on a cross or tree which are the same thing in the end. this symbology is because the sun passes the southern cross.

  No, they do not... and it is statements like these that take away all credence of the supposed scholars making the statements.

  Peace,

  tammy