The Bible designed to stagnate people and ruin lives

by WTWizard 108 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  WTWizard

  And yes, some specifics. Jesus=the sun. The Three Kings actually are a line of stars that are visible in the Middle East, pointing to the Star of Bethlehem. This is actually Sirius, the brightest star. And, around 2 BC, you draw a line through the Three Kings stars and Sirius, and on Christmas Morning, you reach the rising sun.

  The cross--this is actually the Southern Cross. Christmas is actually the observance of the sun being resurrected--in mid December, it "dies" and is "crucified". On the winter solstice, it sits right on the Southern Cross as observed in the Middle East. On December 25, it starts to move north again. Unlike the Washtowel, however, I do not find this an objection to celebrating--in fact, it is fine to celebrate that the life-giving sun is once again moving back into the northern hemisphere. Never mind that one can easily research and find some 20 other Christ-like examples of similar myths.

  As for Jesus, he was actually an apostate Jew. He actually died trying to free mankind from Jehovah. And yes, his birth date was altered by the churches. Again, I do not find that an objection to honoring someone (or any of the other 20 examples of people that tried to free us from Jehovah only to be destroyed). After all, even if you throw in 20 different individuals, you would be celebrating (1) the rebirth of the life-giving sun, and (2) attempts to enlighten mankind, despite Jehovah trying to keep them in spiritual pitch dark as slaves.

  Other things I see in the Bible include slavery being accepted (absolute slavery, not as in employment), unwanted missionary assignments (Jonah and Jeremiah come to mind), and strict laws regarding things that should be spontaneous. This is also the source of blacks and Asians being viewed as inferior (slavery) and homophobia (which was based on the laws in Leviticus against men having sex with other men, and reiterated by Paul).

  I suggest looking at http://see_the_truth.webs.com/ for more information on the subject (cutting and pasting the link) Warning: If you are firm in your beliefs that the Bible is the absolute truth and anything that bashes it is offensive, you will be offended. But, if you are willing to be objective in looking at this site, you will find some more truths about the true origin of the Bible--and looking for other sources on your own will give you an even more balanced view on this great piece of rubbish. And, unlike the Washtowel, I (1) do not claim to adhere by the Bible, using it merely to rebut any of their claims to abide by it, and (2) I advocate doing your own independent research including from sources I do not supply so you can reach your own conclusions.
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  Chemical Emotions

  I mostly agree with you, WTWizard. Except a few parts.
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  mP

  @ziddina

  constantine was not the first god emperor. julius was promoted to divinity by the roman senate three hundred and fifty years before. many cvultures saw their rulers as divine or sons of gods. by proclaiming themselves to be gods the romans were merely demanding equal respect and obedience which helps when so many subjects live in poverty and cruelty. one cant help see the same pattern in the ot, where solomon, david do as they wish and treat subjects like fools who work and pay taxes. notice that followers are always in submission to god, the wording is very powerful in revealing the true relatuonship.

  muslim = literaaly in submission to allah.

  ministerial servant!

  the terms are telling you something, they arent mistakes
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  mP

  @ziddina

  jesus was created to convince jews a messiah did come and his message was subjection to rome. all the other messiahs were to use a modern term terrorists. they literally killed anyone who tried to coexist with the roman overlords. it is obvious that rome knew religion coyld be used as a weapon to change the thoughts of the common man. the jewish rebellion was actually started by the son of the high priest when he killed some high ranking roman who tried to offer a sacrifice in the temple. its ibvious the rebellion and religion were closely linked. the ot is full of hatred and nsurgency type propaganda. the scripture about plowhears is probably the one nice thing in isaiah. only a page away we have lots of hilteresque mad curses. its there in isaiah he says they will eat their children after sashibg their heads on rocks etc.
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  mP

  @tec

  again you ignore the message. the gospels tell us to bnlame the jews for killing christ. take a look at john its mentioned many times, the romans are never blamed once. so they killed jesus so what, the story of submission is still there.
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  ProdigalSon

  When read literally, absolutely. It will render the the human spirit and all its potential null and void.

  When read esoterically, it contains every bit as much wisdom as any other Wisdom Tradition of antiquity.

  Of course, the way's it's transmitted is Satanically deceptive and deliberately so, obviously written by scumbag priests and leaders who would do or say anything for power and control.

  No one knows better than you WTWizard about the Rothschild and their financial system of control. They had much of the money back then and they have most of it today. This is why they won't corrupt their bloodlines, they reincarnate inside the clan. Family names are irrelevant, souls are what matter. You can see how they use that money to fulfill their own prophecies. No doubt it was Amschel's ancient forefathers who wrote the fucking tripe. The whole insidious clan no doubt speaks to them in seances on a regular basis for guidance in how to put the Bible's Black Magic to the most efficient use, using money as a Talisman to invoke power the same way the Watchtower uses the name Jehovah.

  Read William Cooper's "Behold A Pale Horse" and you'll get the full sense of this.
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  mP

  @ziddina

  firstly there were no christians in rome at the time of nero. thats a lie invented by the catholic church along with their lies about st peter and the vatican.there is no archeological proof for christians in rome.if there were thousands in rome, their meeting places etc have not been found.

  part of the confusion surrounds chrestus. chrestus is not the same as christians. the words mean different things.we have the same refereence in jospehus. we must also remember there were many false messiahs or christs at the time, they were many jewish rebel leaders back then. dont believe all these messiah references were about christ they were probably sbout the jews.
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  ProdigalSon

  mP, I think you would love Blavatsky!
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  tec

  mP

  The Jews who handed him over to the romans to be killed were blamed for having handed him over to the romans to be killed, true. The romans are also at fault, but not as much. But the entire Jewish nation is not blamed. Jesus was a Jewish man. So were his disciples. Paul was Jewish. His mother was Jewish, his brothers. All Jewish.

  Not that it matters in either case... because Christ forgave them, and more than that he asked for God to forgive them as well. Those who have since persecuted the jewish people for this over the centuries had to ignore Christ and his teachings and his forgiveness in order to do so. They went against Christ... to do their persecuting. They did not follow Him.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  ProdigalSon

  While the more critically-thinking minds of today will recognize that the OT God is in reality Satan, they miss the point of how to put those attrocious tales and the information in them to the best use. Imagine this Jehovah creature being something inside you, namely, Egos (LEGION), and then read the stories again, and look at how effective the Bible can be in giving you the wherewithal to expel this viscious scumbag from your persona!