WT: "Don't watch news items featuring witnesses!"

by cedars 62 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • cedars

    Hi everyone, yet another analysis of a recent Watchtower I'm afraid. This one's a little closer to home, as it concerns apostates. Yes - I'm referring to the forthcoming article "Will You Heed Jehovah's Clear Warnings?" (w11 7/15 p15-19) to be discussed at the meetings very shortly indeed, between September 5th and 11th.

    You may want to brace yourselves, and/or your loved ones, because it contains some real venom!

    I'll start with my "headline" item - where the society are evidently now dissuading brothers from watching news items that touch on Jehovah's Witnesses, or on which former witnesses are interviewed. The Society issues this order both in print, and by means of a not-so-subtle visual aid which conveys their guidance as to the degree to which witnesses should be on their guard...

    Don't watch apostates on TV

    You can view the "simplified English" format pages where this picture appears by clicking here and here.

    So, the lesson for us? If a credible news report featuring a former witness flashes up on your TV screen whilst you and your wife are doing your Days Text over coffee and muffins, you should switch that channel, even if the item has been well-researched and substantiated by a responsible journalist. The written instructions appear in paragraph 7 as follows:

    "What is involved in avoiding false teachers? We do not receive them into our homes or greet them. We also refuse to read their literature, watch TV programs that feature them, examine their Web sites, or add our comments to their blogs. Why do we take such a firm stand? Because of love. We love "the God of truth," so we are not interested in twisted teachings that contradict his word of truth. (Ps. 31:5; John 17:17)"

    Needless to say, the article DOESN'T go on to say... "Ironically, you'll never know just how twisted our teachings are, because you're now banned from finding out!"

    The article includes some forthright assertions about apostates and their motives:

    • Apostates are false teachers, or 'dried up wells'. "Anyone coming to them for waters of truth will be bitterly disappointed". Isn't anybody who teaches something that can be proved as false automatically a "false teacher"? Are the Society willing to have their beliefs and teachings independently verified as to their truthfulness?
    • What do apostates want? "They are not content just to leave the organization that they perhaps once loved. Their aim, Paul explained, is to 'draw away the disciples after themselves.' Note the definite article in the expression 'the disciples'. Rather than going out and making their own disciples, apostates seek to take Christ's disciples with them. Like 'ravenous wolves,' false teachers are out to devour trusting members of the congregation, destroying their faith and leading them away from the truth.-Matt. 7:15; 2 Tim. 2:18.This inadvertently reveals the real issue that is of most pressing importance to the Society - people coming back and snatching their devoted followers. "Leave our followers alone, go and find your own followers, we found ours first!" Also, how can Paul's words be arbitrarily applied to anybody who leaves the organisation, when the majority of "apostates" remain Christian, and aren't interested in drawing people away from Christ at all - more in saving individual witnesses from spending their entire lives in absolute servitude to a flawed human organisation?
    • The methods of apostates reveal a cunning spirit, as they "quietly bring in" corruptive ideas. "Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use "counterfeit words," or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread "deceptive teachings," "twisting... the Scriptures" to fit their own ideas. (2 Pet. 2:1, 3, 13; 3:16) Clearly, apostates do not have our best interests at heart.There is nothing clandestine whatsoever about books such as Crisis of Conscience, or websites such as jwfacts, and all information contained in both of those resources can be fully verified by documentary evidence. Actually, most of the above quote can be re-directed towards the Society themselves, as it is they who have subtly and gradually introduced blatantly flawed doctrine over many decades, "trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true", and "twisting the Scriptures to fit their own ideas" (i.e. the "increasing light" doctrine). Do the society have "our best interests at heart" by breaking up families rather than allowing disfellowshipped wrongdoers to undermine their influence and authority by sharing the 'real truth' with their family members?
    • "apostates are 'mentally diseased,' and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3,4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them.This is perhaps where the article hits the 'lowest of the low' where aspertions are cast against the mental integrity of anybody who would be crazy enough to be disloyal to the organisation. Interestingly, the mental health of memorial partakers is also brought into question in another recent article, so your regular publisher has a straight choice between accepting information from 'mentally diseased' former witnesses, or the 'mentally or emotionally imbalanced' memorial partakers who serve on the Governing Body. It's what's often called 'being stuck between a rock and a hard place'! As the glamrock group Slade once put it, "Mama weer all crazee now!"

    As always, the thoughts of all you loonies and crackpots out there would be greatly appreciated. And remember, stay away from that TV, and particularly any reputable new items about the witnesses!

  • Aussie Oz
    Aussie Oz

    Its all scare tactics...we know it, they don't


  • shamus100

    Ooooh, I love these articles! They are so filled with shit it's brimming. So, point by point..

    1) Dried up wells: If you mean we don't have answers, then, yes! We don't have the answer to "where shall we go now" for weak-minded people.

    2) Draw followers after themselves: Oh pahlease... Pffftttt!!!! I think I've told about ten people they should go back and be witnesses and live their old life. I really don't care if people want to be witnesses. I'll think to the end of my life that they are wrong, of course. I don't want any followers. ;D

    3) I don't bring in any subtle ideas to anyone. Jobie nitwits are brimming with bullshit.

    4) Jehovah the great physichian - That is so utterly ridiculous it's not worthy of a response, other than an emoticon of someone laughing very very hard. How does the writing department dream this up? Do they eat wild mushrooms and hallucinate? ** the monkey prays to the invisible pink unicorn for a red pill for his 'mental disease **

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Get to know this stuff so that you can make your points with fitting their molds

    1) Dried up wells: Don't tell them anything. Just make them prove their WT crapola.

    2) Draw followers after themselves: Don't tell them anything. Just make them prove their WT crapola.

    3) Bring in any subtle ideas. Don't tell them anything. Just make them prove their WT crapola.

    4) Apostates are 'mentally diseased,' and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. Don't tell them anything. Just make them prove their WT crapola.

  • blondie

    Actually they have done this before. You just can't keep jws from looking if they know nobody (on earth anyway) will know they did.

  • shamus100

    Oh, just remember. People leaving has nothing to do with truth or common-sense. It's all about disease baby! ;D

  • punkofnice

    "What is involved in avoiding false teachers? (Avoid the WTB$ propaganda machine for a start) We do not receive them into our homes or greet them. ('Them'? Who's 'them'? 'Hasty overgenralization' methinks to give the JWs a cozy 'US vs: THEM' polarized outlook on life) We also refuse to read their literature,(what and who's literature? I don't ever remember someone knocking on MY door with 'false teachings' unlike one sect I know!)watch TV programs that feature them, (who? C'mon, give me some specifics here WTB$!)examine their Web sites, (unless we examine websites how do we know if it's crud or not? Oh, wait. Sorry you mean only look at the WTB$ website. Sorry, my bad!)or add our comments to their blogs. (At last something positive! I'm sick of all the pathetic comments I see from JWs on YouTube comment boxes and it just makes the WTB$ look as pathetic as they are with their propaganda. All they say is 'only the watchtower has the truth' and that's it. Apart from 'proof' scriptures they are a dry well. Does this mean old DJeggy & 5468684dfqee46465456 won't be back? Ah, peace!!!!)Why do we take such a firm stand? Because of love. (I thought it was to isolate the JWs into a mental commune where they can't see the evil behind the WTB$ and leave!) We love "the God of truth," (Translation = 'We the GB need your cash and we want power over you!' 'truth' = a powerful example of cult loaded language.) so we are not interested in twisted teachings that contradict his (Appeal to authority, and the 'preacher's WE' to make the reader think it involves them........and use of the word 'twisted' is the pot calling the kettle. New Light (TM) = previous light was a twisted teaching. Own goal!) word of truth. (Ps. 31:5; John 17:17)" (Why the scripture in Psalms 31:5? This is what Jesus said when hung on the cross/trree or whatever. Oh, sorry, it's a 'proof text' used as part of 'mystical manipulation' to make the JWs think the article is 'Bible based'. Same with John 17:17 being ripped out of context. Honestly, you can prove a spotted hippo lives up my nose if you want by using bits of scripture - this is pathetic propaganda)

  • Dutch-scientist

    Not suprised at all!

    1. They say in an other publication what is coming soon that they cannot answer themself all questions!

    2. They choose Apostates from an other religion to join the Organisation.

    3. A Paradise Earth is an Subtle idea to their members

    to belief in! ( and all 1001 other lies )

    4. According to medical reports JW's has an problem. ( Fobiac, Blood issue's etc)

    Always they blame others where they are the problem.

  • cedars

    I realise there's nothing new in all of this, but hopefully if nothing else it gives a nice "heads up" for anyone in a situation such as mine who may have friends or loved ones attending the meeting where this will be discussed. You can either (1) batten down the hatches and expect your friend/partner to be void of all tolerance for a while after the meeting, or (2) you can discuss the article with them beforehand and explain how some of the assertions made in the article defy all logic and are overtly venomous (assuming you are in a position to have such a conversation, thankfully I am).

    I thought of particular interest was:

    1. The Society's growing tendency to diagnose anybody whose actions they aren't in agreement with as having some form of "mental illness", which smacks of desperation, i.e. "he's mentally ill, don't listen to him!" It's reminiscent of the pharisaic claims against Jesus that he must have a demon if he was able to heal people.
    2. The arbitrary ban on news/documentary items featuring former witnesses, irrespective of whether the points made are valid and the item has been well researched in advance by a responsible and/or respected journalist.
  • punkofnice

    This is how I'm interpreting the new literal-trash about 'apostates', non JWs and also JWS

    It goes like this ========Governing Body = Higher than god
    ===================Non GB 'anointed' = possibly mental
    ===================Rank&File = Unworthy drones, be suspicious of each other
    ==================='Apostates' = pretend enemy & mental cases

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