LAROUCHE THROWS RIDICULERS TRIPLE CURVE (page 5)

OUTLAW

Hey You Know,What a lot of dooms day crap!The only thing your consistant at is being wrong!(Just trying to make you feel at home on your first day back)..LOL...OUTLAW

You Know

SEXY TEEN asks:

I have a question. Do you think that the Great Tribulation will begin with a financial meltdown? If so, how would that be related to the fall of Babylon the Great?

Over the years I have made it plain, according to the pattern established in Scripture, that Jehovah always deliberately leaves his servants in the dark regarding certain vital details. Take for example the apostles. They of course accepted that Jesus was the Son of God, but, they had certain unrealistic expectations about the future. Even though Jesus told them over and over again that he was going to die and leave them, they just couldn't get it throught their heads. The reason is, as stated at Luke 9:45, that it was "concealed from them that they might not see through it."

Evidently the reason Jehovah did that was because it was his will that they bridge the gap by their faith. And by that means Jehovah is able to supply an answer to the Devil's taunts. So, we have certain expectations regarding the future too, and while I don't feel comfortable disputing the Watchtower's interpretations of prophecies, particularly in this forum, regarding how things are supposedly going to go down, I will say that I would leave open the possibility that the tribulation could commence in a manner that we have not expected. That would be a huge test of our faith in Jehovah, wouldn't it? So, the Scriptures say that Jehovah has things kept on "reserve" that he will not reveal until he's ready. That means that we may have to bridge a considerable chasm between what we have been taught with the reality that may present itself in the near future. Those with faith in God will be the ones to make the leap.

To answer your question though: I don't think a financial collapse is going to initiate the tribulation as such, but, I think the imminence of the financial collapse is driving the powers-that-be into provoking WWIII. It seems inevitable that at some point somebody with nukes is going to get happy. And, of course, once someone sets one off, then, the whole system panics and the collapse seems like a natural course of events. Then in the smoke of global chaos and terror we could easily see the UN step up and assume powers that now are unimaginable. Then religion would come right between the crosshairs of Jehovah's fearsome executioner as we have long-expected. / You Know

SYN

LOL @ YouKnow!!! A 100% profit...hehe!

"I see no good reasons why the views given in this volume should shock the religious sensibilities of anyone." -- Charles Darwin, The Origin Of Species, 1869.

AlanF

: LaRouche is the world's most successful economic forecaster on record.

Yeah, right. Since he always forecasts doom, from time to time nasty things occur and accidentally coincide with his forecasts.

Just like with your 'forecasts', Bobby. What is it now, four or five years you've been predicting the same thing for the October-January timeframe? Total collapse of "the system" followed by "the end of the world". This past fall your 'prediction' accidentally coincided with events following the WTC disaster, but as we all know, the actual details of your claims were completely wrong. Same goes for your hallowed mentor LaRouche. Reduce the details to fuzziness like "things will go wrong" and you're bound to get it "right" sometime. LOL! The sad thing is that you actually seem to believe your own foolishness.

AlanF

Mindchild

I Know something that You Know doesn't!

http://www.fourthturning.com/

Robert...get off your Jehovah Horse and look around and smell the roses a bit. This is a good place to start to see what is really happening in the world. Buy the book and see what causes cycles in history, where we are in the current cycle, and what will happen next. This is a 100% more realistic than the Jehovah Mongering.

Skipper

hillary_step

Hello Robert,

Good to read you again - I think, lol

Over the years I have made it plain, according to the pattern established in Scripture, that Jehovah always deliberately leaves his servants in the dark regarding certain vital details. Take for example the apostles

Mmmm….

Amos 3:7-8 For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets. 8 There is a lion that has roared! Who will not be afraid? The Sovereign Lord Jehovah himself has spoken! Who will not prophesy?’

Ok, come clean, are you a prophet?

Best regards - HS

You Know

Hillary Step: It is always been a pleasure for me to deal with intelligent questions and challenges to my faith. The paradox that you were keen-eyed enough to point out is not something that I haven't given a considerable amount of thought to. But, it can be resolved.

Take the very instance that I cited where it says that the matter concerning Christ's death was concealed from the apostles. Now, the question is: Did Jehovah reveal his so-called "confidential matters to his servants" at that time? The answer is obviously no. Technically the apostles were not even in the office of prophets until after they were anointed. Before that Jesus was the only one who was privy to Jehovah's confidential matters. And of course after he was resurrected then the account in Luke says that he fully opened up the Scriptures to the apostles. So, the context in Amos seems to indicate that at the time when Jehovah reveals his "confidential matters" is when He begins to roar, as it were.

For example verse 5 & 6 list a series of rhetorical questions posed by Jehovah, asking:

"Will a bird fall into a trap on the earth when there is no snare for it?
Does a trap go up from the ground when it has absolutely nothing?
If a horn is blown in a city, do not also the people themselves tremble?
If a calamity occurs in the city, is it not also Jehovah who has acted?
There is a lion that has roared! Who will not be afraid?
The Sovreign Lord Jehovah himself has spoken! Who will not prophesy?"

Now, the question is: By what means does Jehovah speak in that context? It seems that he is referring to a calamity as being his means of speaking, so it is not necessarily his written word that is likened to a roar. Elsewhere the sudden commencement of the tribulation is likened to a snare that unexpectedly traps the unwary, like He illustrated with the birdcatcher. Too, Jehovah's day is said to be accompanied by the alarm signal that would cause terror. The point is then, that, since the trap has not sprung, yet; and because the alarm has not been sounded, yet; and the "city" has not experienced a calamity, yet; then it stands to reason that Jehovah has not roared---yet. Even as Jeremiah verifies by writing these words:

"From on high Jehovah himself will roar,
and from his holy dwelling he will give forth his voice.
Without fail he will roar upon his abiding place.
A shout like that of those treading the winepress
he will sing out against all the inhabitants of the earth."

Since it is evident that Jehovah has not roared, neither have his servants prophesied in response to the roaring of Jehovah God. What we can say though is that the preaching work of Jehovah's Witnesses is a preliminary to his roaring, but presently Jehovah has not revelaed all of his confidential matters to his servants. That is something that will take palce during the calamitous period of his "roaring," now oncoming. / You Know

sf

"By the way, my soldier picture is a German WWI soldier I think. It is just something that I picked up on the net thumbing through a WWI photo albumn. I no longer have the link though. / You Know"

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To pull the url off a photo, click rightmouse and hit "properties". It's visible there.

You're welcomed, sKally

SexyTeen

That would be a huge test of our faith in Jehovah, wouldn't it?

Yes it would and we must be ready. You have an interesting view on how it could happen. Thanks for the explanation.

I went back and read some of your previous posts and I believe I read that you are annointed. Have you given much thought on how all annointed will end up in heaven. I understand that they must all be there by the time Armageddon. I see by the figures that there are around 8,000 left, but of course we know that many of those are not real annointed. I imagine only half of those are really annointed.

larc

You Know,

I will not be reading your new reference for awhile. In my own desire to break my adiction to posting here, I am getting back into basic research, which I started over a year ago. I will not go into any detail, because the last time I did, you laughed at me and when I asked why, there was no answer forthcoming.

In the mean time, I have a question for you. What are your opinions of free will versus determinism? I had a discussion on this subject with Duns, who is a very brilliant JW apologist. If you enter Determinism on search, you can find it. If you have thoughts on the subject, please add to that thread.

By the way, I have my own triple curve, which I plan to show off in spring training. I think I will make the major leagues this year.

Regarding the relationship between you and me, Bob Dylan wrote, "I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now."

Keep a grin.

LAROUCHE THROWS RIDICULERS TRIPLE CURVE

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