Was God over reacting destroying the whole planet in Noah's flood to kill afew evil people...too bad Noah forgot the Unicorns and Dinosaurs according to the Watchtower! (page 8)

JustHuman14

Can you explain truthseeker, why the Gilgamesh Epic, is similar to Noahs Flood, but older?

Also if a Global flood occured in just 4200 years ago, why does WT clearly contradict it self when they accept the building of the Pyramids in Eggypt in the year 4400 B.C? How can Pyramids are build 200 years BEFORE the Great Flood? Just do a search in WT's CD regarding Pyramids and you will see the clear contradiction by the WT.

And if according to WT the Earth was filled with Water, then how come and we find papyrus in the Egyptian desert, dating 4400 B.C or even older than that? To preserve a papyrus you need DRY soil, or sand. If the entire earth was filled with water then we wouldn't have any papyrus, they would have been destroyed by the flooding water...

And finally, how did kangaroos travel to Australia? Why we find certain spieces in certain places and not in all over the world?

truthseeker

I remember reading somewhere that some of the pyramids predate the flood. This might include the sphinx.

Some archaeologists have asserted earlier dates to a number of clay tablets excavated from the preflood period but the clay tablets are not dated documents. It is evident that writing existed in the preflood world, even though the Bible does not make mention or reference to any writings in that period.

The Bible gives only a basic understanding of that era and much is left out. It does not make mention every time someone went to the toilet, but we know that the natural order provided for such things. Speaking or putting thoughts on clay tablets was no less a natural progression. Today, we still do much of what was done in the preflood era - the building of cities, the development of musical instruments and theory etc.

truthseeker

JustHuman,

I'd be interested to see a link of this

why does WT clearly contradict it self when they accept the building of the Pyramids in Eggypt in the year 4400 B.C?

I don't have access to the WT CD.

truthseeker

I think a lot is buried in the oceans from the preflood world. The receding of the waters were not to their original boundaries. Many of the land masses under went change from caverns, rising land masses and trenches that were created from God's hand being involved, which altered the original water boundaries and created new ones.

DaCheech

Also if a Global flood occured in just 4200 years ago, why does WT clearly contradict it self when they accept the building of the Pyramids in Eggypt in the year 4400 B.C? How can Pyramids are build 200 years BEFORE the Great Flood? Just do a search in WT's CD regarding Pyramids and you will see the clear contradiction by the WT.

And if according to WT the Earth was filled with Water, then how come and we find papyrus in the Egyptian desert, dating 4400 B.C or even older than that? To preserve a papyrus you need DRY soil, or sand. If the entire earth was filled with water then we wouldn't have any papyrus, they would have been destroyed by the flooding water...

And finally, how did kangaroos travel to Australia? Why we find certain spieces in certain places and not in all over the world?

great reasoning

TD

And finally, how did kangaroos travel to Australia? Why we find certain spieces in certain places and not in all over the world?

How many species would have survived a genetic bottleneck as severe as Genesis describes? Would there have been any animals to migrate at all?

We've driven enough species to the brink of extinction and then attempted to bring them back via captive breeding programs to have a good feel for this by now. With higher mammals, a breeding population of fifty is considered the bare minimum. Anything less and the population sickens and declines.

We can invoke the hand of God (yet again..) as the magic wand which sweeps aside pesky technical details, but at some point you have to ask, "Why?" Judgement via 'natural' cataclysm ends up being far more work for God than if He had directly executed the 'wicked' and had done with it.

designs

The significance of myths and didactic allegorizing show that the Jewish people were evolving in their ability to achieve in the arts epic cosmolgy, the big picture story telling capability. They went from strictly agrarian tribes to nationhood and a merchant middleclass in a few centuries.

Moses like Sargon the Elder were intellectual statesmen and leaders trying to preserve their history and set the future in order for their peoples.

Mythology, as Joseph Campbell points out, are important parts of the diffusion of a culture and civilization, sina qua non of progress.

truthseeker

The flood served two purposes because it was also a judgment for those living on the planet. Once the fallen angels dissolved their fleshly containers and were back in the spirit realm, they were stripped of the power to materialize again.

As mankind grew in numbers, Satan tempted some of the angels away from God's organization. They materialized on this planet and married human women. They told the people of the preflood days what secrets they knew of heaven. The marriages between the angels and humans did not please God. Noah and his family were righteous in God’s eyes, so they found favor with him. They were the only humans to survive the flood. The waters of that flood not only drowned all living things that resided on previous dry ground, but it also took with them the secrets divulged by those fallen angels.

The flesh the angels materialized was not what God had started the first human pair from. It was a counterfeit flesh that doomed the offspring to a judgment of destruction, as well as the wives of both the fallen angels and the Nephilim offspring. The angels that materialized in human form were not of mankind’s "one flesh". They materialized a counterfeit flesh that did not represent God's original creation, and the union between these counterfeit humans and the female offspring of Adam and Eve produced their own hybrid offspring.

The fallen angels kept some of their superior attributes while taking fleshly form, and this produced the Nephilim sons that became "mighty ones." Something else that made them stronger and mightier was that they ate animal flesh, which was not on mankind’s menu back then.

It was God's will that none of them should survive the deluge, but, he also wanted the disobedient angels to return to the spirit realm. The flood accomplished that. For their transgression, the fallen angels were put under Satan’s control, because he was the first of his kind to sin.

designs

truthseeker-

If the Jewish people wrote and view the 'Sin-Flood' as allegorical why are Witnesses and the Fundamentalists the last of the Post Reformation groups still trying take it literal.

truthseeker

designs,

I have no idea. I don't think you have to be a dub or a fundie to believe the flood account.

Was God over reacting destroying the whole planet in Noah's flood to kill afew evil people...too bad Noah forgot the Unicorns and Dinosaurs according to the Watchtower!

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