There was a heated discussion between debator and a few others by hijacking this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/194187/1
I posted here every post on this subject, so you can continue the debate, and leave that thread to its original purpose. Hopefully I got all the relevant posts.
Mark 13:29-31 (New International Version)
29 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. 30 I tell you the truth, this generation [a] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
This is the Prophetic Scripture in Jesus's own words that is causing all the controversy but why are you giving the witnesses hassle over this?
Is Jesus lying here about "Generation"?
Could the apostles makes similar mistakes over Jesus's words?
Jesus answered, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me."
Therefore this saying went out among the brethren that that disciple would not die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but only, "If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you?"
Where the disciples condemned for predicting from Jesus words that one of them would not die? For making a mistake and taking Jesus's words as prophecy? No
These were inspired Apostles as well that got this wrong!
Prophecy is about watching the predicted signs being on "watch" being "ready". Witnesses are doing this and if time shows they have not got the correct understanding on a Bible prophecy they will get refined.
Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.
Daniel is clear refinement will be needed until "the end". This is especially important for prophecy which has been given us as a subjective proposition to undertsand from reading the signs from actual bible prophecies.
Are you saying God's people will be INSPIRED NOW! to KNOW beyond doubt when Armageddon or Jesus's return is?
It sounds like you are expecting an apostle level of inspiration from the annointed in this time when clearly this has ended with the apostles. And my examples shows the apostles could also make wrong conclusions from Jesus's words on prophecy thinking he had predicted something and not get condemned just refined.
Prophecy understanding is meant to be subjective seen from readable signs happening not an inspired thing.