Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs (page 47)

theMadJW

1. Proverbs 3:5-6
Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not rely on your own insight. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.

First, try putiing God's Name back in the verse. Second, Jesus said the ONLY ones that would be drawn to him were the ones drawn by his FATHER.

theMadJW

2. 1 Timothy 3: 14-15
I hope to come to you soon, but I am writing these instructions to you so that,
if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God,
which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.

Scott Hahn pulled this one on me. “So, Marc, what is the pillar and foundation of truth?”
I answered, “The Bible, of course.” “Oh yeah? But what does the Bible say?” “What do you mean?”
When he told me to look up this verse, I suspected nothing. I had taught and preached through First
Timothy many times. But when I read this verse, it was as if it had suddenly appeared from nowhere,
and my jaw dropped. The Church!? Not the Bible? This alone sent my mind and essentially my whole
life reeling; the question of which Church was one I was not ready to broach.

Big Revelation...

theMadJW

3. 2 Timothy 3:14-17
But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed,
knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been
acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation
through faith in Christ Jesus. All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching,
for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of
God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

Verses 16-17 were the texts I and others had always turned to buttress our belief in sola
Scriptura, so to this I quickly turned my attention. Among many things, three important
things became very clear, for the first time: (1) when Paul used the term “scripture” in this
verse, he could only have meant when we call the Old Testament. The New Testament
canon would not be established for another 300 years! (2) “All” scripture does not mean
“only” scripture nor specifically what we have in our modern bibles. And (3), the emphasis
in the context of this verse (vereses 14-15) is the trustworthiness of the oral tradition
Timothy had received from his mother and others—not sola Scriptura!

Mad: They were to continue in the TRUTH from the Mosaic Law and Christ's words- NOT
church tradition which is as corrupt as the tradition of Judiasm in Jesus' day- and is even
MORE corrupted now!

theMadJW

4. 2 Thessalonians 2:15
So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.

This was another “too-hot-to-handle” verse Scott threw in my lap. The traditions (Dare I say, traditions) that these early
Christian were to hold fast to were not just the written letters and Gospels that would eventually make up the New Testament,
but the oral tradition. And even more significant, the context of Paul’s letters indicates that his normal, preferred way of
passing along “what he had received” was orally; his written letters were an accidental, sometimes unplanned add-on,
dealing with immediate problems—leaving unsaid so much of what they had learned through oral teaching.

LOLOLO! They were TAUGHT by both- and when taught by WORD it was BASED on scripture- including what Christ
taught, which was put into writing- and the spirit directed it.

theMadJW

5. Matthew 16:13-19
Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesare’a Philip’pi, he asked his disciples, “Who do men say that the Son of man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Eli’jah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

There is so much to discuss in this verse, so much I never saw. I always knew that Catholics used this to argue Petrine authority but I wasn’t convinced. To the naively ignorant, the English words “Peter” and “rock” are so different that it’s obvious that Jesus was referring to the faith Simon Peter received as a gift from the Father. For the more informed seminary educated Bible students, like myself, I knew that behind the English was the Greek, where one discovered that Peter is the translation of petros, meaning little pebble, and rock is the translation of petra, large boulder. Again an obvious disconnect, so so for years I believed and taught specifically against Petrine authority. Then, through the reading of Karl Keating’s wonderful book, Catholicism and Fundamentalism, I realized the implications of something I knew all along: behind the Greek was the Aramaic which Jesus originally spoke, in which the word for Peter and rock are identical—kepha. Once I saw that Jesus had said essentially “You are kepha and on this kepha I will build my Church,” I knew I was in trouble.

That's for sure- for the scriptures say JESUS is the foundation, the rock. He was telling Peter that his Power and Authority would COME from himself- not that Peter put on a funny hat, fancy robes, and have a giant building constructed!

theMadJW

6. Revelation 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord henceforth." "Blessed indeed," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!"

For years, as a Calvinist preacher, I recited this verse in every funeral graveside service. I believed and taught sola fide and discounting any place for works in the process of our salvation. But then, after my last funeral service as a minister, a family member of the deceased cornered me. He asked, with a tremble in his voice, “What did you mean that Bill’s deeds follow him?” I don’t remember my response, but this was the first time I became aware of what I had been saying. This began a long study on what the New Testament and then the Early Church Fathers taught about the mysterious but necessary synergistic connection between our faith and our works.

Another Revelation! heh

You mean Christians actually DID SOMETHING?

(Other than paying clergy to teach coprolite???)

theMadJW

This is tiring reading such ignorance- let's skip to the end:

"10. Luke 1:46-49
“And Mary said, ‘My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.’”

Finally the hardest hurdle for so many Protestant converts to get over: our Blessed Mother Mary. For most of my life, the only place Mary came into the picture was at Christmas—and dare I say, as a statue! But I never referred to her as “blessed.” Yet Scripture says all generations will call her blessed. Why wasn’t I? This led me to see other verses for the first time, including John 17 where from the cross Jesus giave his mother into the keeping of John, rather than any supposed siblings, and by grace I began, in imitation of my Lord and Savior and eternal brother Jesus, to recognize her, too, as my loving Mother. "

Mad:Sweet Baby-God Jesus, what nonsense! Mary is NOT your mother....poor churchoid!

theMadJW

Still waiting to hear of a scripture we ignore....

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theMadJW

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PSacramento

Did you ever answer ACTS chapter 1 by the way?

6 So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, is this the time when you will restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He replied, “It is not for you to know the times or periods that the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” 9 When he had said this, as they were watching, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. 10 While he was going and they were gazing up toward heaven, suddenly two men in white robes stood by them. 11 They said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up toward heaven? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

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