by The Finger 23 Replies latest jw experiences
I am sorry but I have to say this, BOLOGNA! Crossing a busy street can kill ya, sucking on a jaw breaker can kill ya, blow drying your hair in the tub can kill ya, pounding the mean streets of LA with a gun and a badge can kill ya....Point is MANY things can kill you these days. Yes, stress from Religion, Job, Marriage, life itself can kill ya. It's not as if being a JW has exclusive rights on contributing to the stress level that can cause body harm. Just my humble opinion.
D.
Being a witness could kill a person.
When my wife had our son she needed a blood transfusion, she refused her count was very low,
Somehow she survived but she was ready to die and refused the blood.
My brother in law, a jw. got lukemia, he refused treatment which would have involved a blood transfusion,
he died within the week of finding out he had lukemia.
My Sister in law got hit by a car her witness parents refused to give her blood, she died that night.
Figuratively it killed me, I didnt get a college education, I woulld have had a much better more enjoyable life
as a school teacher than a jail guard. It killed me but I havent fallen down yet.
I personally feel that having spent 31 years in the tower tremendously increased my stress level, while
at the same time reducing my earning level and quality of life level.
not exactly kill someone, but it could certainly shorten their life span. In fact i do wonder what the average age of death of jw's is?
The lifestyle of seeing everying negitivly, never taking a break, working for a wage and then double working for a cult, sitting in a kingdom hall with half the people projecting their germs over you,living in poverty with no means to buy nutrious food. Yes all of that can and has been well documented that it shortens the human life span.
Not to mention that the JW's wouldn't mind dying in this "system" so that they can wake up in "paradise"
The body in a funny thing, if you tell it you want to die, thats what can happen.
Thank you for your comments.
I feel it has alot to do with how you view the organization. Once at a meeting with some of the elders one expressed the view of the organization being our mother and my going against her. Something we wouldn't want to do.
I always believed faith was the "assured" expectation of the things hoped for though not beheld. My relative also held this view. We were assured by this "Mother" that God's promise was the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the fulfillment of Matthew 24 and the End.
The view was that this generation had to be of an age of discernment. This was stretched to being alive at the time. This "Mother" also took the position of giving out the food at the proper time.
To me and to my relative it seemed a lack of faith if you did not trust in God's organization and his promises explained by them. In so believing in these promises it then affects all of the decisions you make in life in order to live with your faith. Some of these decisions meant, that with a much larger time frame involved than was promised by the "Mother", great hardship, loss, suffering and depression have been experienced. As if you'd paid into a pension only to find on retirement your fund was empty. Some cannot take it.
Babayoga ..Yep good link..I have seen too many of these type deaths myself....x
Increased depression
Lack of proper health insurance
Poor planning for retirement
Working harder, under worse conditions because of failure to get an education
or failure to see a need to improve working conditions since the end is so near
All your hopes and dreams being shattered by reality when "nulite" comes up
Yes, being a Witness can kill a person.
THE FINGER- Yes, entirely true. The mental, emotional, and physical pressure and damage this mind control cult does to it's members is unfathomable. People feel guilted into serving the needs of the WT society so much that they drop dead on the platforms giving talks, I had a 83 year old sister die on my shoulder after giving HER part on the stage at an assembly in front of 3,000 people. Then the elder just kept the part going. We pulled her body off the stage. Sick and twisted. I've seen so many lives destroyed by this " expected alleigance " to the WT society
yes,,,,,absolutelly yes....and YES..YES.... YES....SOME MORE...truly awful.....
I will not comment on the blood issue, or the chance of dying as a direct result of persecution or an accident while at the Kingdumb Hell, in field circus, or en route to these places.
However, what happens to people when they do not get enough sleep? Most witlesses are urged to pio-sneer. If you pio-sneer, you are devoting 70 hours a month directly to field circus. I have heard more than my share of "I don't feel like being out here today"'s out of pio-sneers. I have also seen more than my share of late comers, including the person whose house field circus was being held from (and when that person was going out, at that). I challenge anyone to try and work enough to make a living, then waste another 70 hours a month plus attending boasting sessions (another 25 hours), waste maybe an extra 30 hours a month on travel and meetings for field circus, and see how much time that leaves for sleep.
Most witlesses are poor, claiming to be happiest just above the poverty level. And I am not referring to deferring medical care, either. Poor people cannot afford nutritious organic foods, vitamins, or things like that. They are worried about where their rent money is coming from--that "Throw your burden on Jehovah" crap does not work. They are stuck with crap products, some of which can actually be health and/or safety issues. That can even include a fire because of a bad appliance or because they couldn't afford to fix the roof when it was a little problem.
I cannot see how in hell listening to Kingdumb maladies all the time can possibly improve one's health. And that's even more true now that the Kingdumb maladies are even worse. The talks are so negative--even above and beyond the mainstream media. The world is totally vile, destruction is imminent if you should ever leave, and the like. Calling worldly people "urine" and "poison" (I have actually heard both in talks from the platform at the Kingdumb Hell), or comparing them to pigs and dogs, puts them in a bad light. Which further stresses people out. Adding the stress from the environmental holiday songs and decorations, you can easily end up dead.
Another thing that kills is the pxxx poor diets that many witlesses eat. I have seen witlesses that eat at McDonald's every day that they are out in field circus. Now, I am not suggesting that you should never eat at those places again (though that is an option, especially if it negatively reminds one of their days as a witless). But eating fast, good-tasting poison three or more times a week on an ongoing basis (some witlesses eat there every day) is never a good idea. You are getting rancid oil with your fries, a monosodium glutamate burger, more monosodium glutamate in the "special(??)" sauce, high fructose corn syrup or aspartame in your pop, and sodium caseinate in your shakes. The result is that many of them are fat, sluggish, and have diseases like cancer, diabetes, and heart trouble in their 30s and 40s.
And, I have seen the results. Not in the funerals of people that were recruited in their late 70s and 80s, smoked all their lives, and died after 3 or 4 years. I have seen people with chronic health issues all the time, and more witlesses are coming down with diabetes (the high fructose corn syrup drinks and the lack of sleep are the major culprits here) than in the general population (and I am referring to type 2, not type 1, diabetes). I saw one "sister" that was faithful in the cancer, dying at around 62 of liver cancer. Another had arthritis real bad, and had a heart attack on leaving for field circus, also under age 65. I am seeing more witlesses dying in their 40s through early 60s of diseases that usually kill people in their 70s through 90s. This is getting as bad as the deaths of black musicians in their 40s through early 60s.
Except the black musicians produce good music and live richly in the course of their lives. The witlesses do not.
I developed CFS/ME after some strenuous years and the specialist told me it was rampant among jws here in the uk cos of the pressure put upon them to do more and more. I still kept pioneering. A very old elder who was a love. the other elders all bullied him too, sat me down one day and said 'why are you making Jehovah into a slave driver?' he had a point. Later after my DF I developed a breast cancer and the drs insisted it was the trauma of the DF ...I wasnt sure I believed them ...but considering how good my health is now I think they may have been right. If I hadnt been stronger I certainly would have given in and 'topped' myself. I told them I felt this way and they just shrugged. Bloodguilt I think? Yep definitely.
Loz x
