Climate Change The New Catalyst For Globalists/Communist Utopia

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  BurnTheShips

  Are you pretty much with Senator Inhofe on this then?

  I always think a bit of humor is good, don't you?

  And to more serious matters:

  … it is possible that this is just a big conspiracy by climate scientist around the world to boost their cause and make themselves more important. Though I find it hard to believe that thousands of scientists…all agreed to promote bogus science …Pretty hard to do without being discovered.

  To which Paul Vaughan responded as follows:

  Actually not so hard.

  Personal anecdote:
  Last spring when I was shopping around for a new source of funding, after having my funding slashed to zero 15 days after going public with a finding about natural climate variations, I kept running into funding application instructions of the following variety:

  Successful candidates will:
  1) Demonstrate AGW.
  2) Demonstrate the catastrophic consequences of AGW.
  3) Explore policy implications stemming from 1 & 2.

  Follow the money — perhaps a conspiracy is unnecessary where a carrot will suffice. This confirms the stories that I’ve been hearing over the last few years.

  http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/11/perhaps-a-conspiracy-is-unnecessary-where-a-carrot-will-suffice/

  You get what you pay for

  UN to ask for 60 billion to fund more Climate Research.

  Apparently "settled science" needs a lot of expensive accessories.

  BTS
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  besty

  Even disregarding the CRU controversy the empirical evidence is and has been clear for some time:

  · Our planet is suffering an energy imbalance and is steadily accumulating heat ( Hansen 2005 , Murphy 2009, Schuckmann 2009, Trenberth 2009)

  · Animal and plant species are responding to earlier springs. Eg - earlier frog breeding, bird nesting, earlier flowering, earlier migration of birds and butterflies (Parmeson 2003)

  · The distribution of tree lines, plants, birds, mammals, insects, fish, reptiles, marine invertebrates are shifting towards the poles (Parmeson 2003)

  · Arctic permafrost is degrading (Anisimov 2006) plus warming at greater depths in the permafrost (Stieglitz 2003)

  · Global sea level rise is accelerating (Church 2006)

  · Antarctic ice loss is accelerating (Velicogna 2009), even from East Antarctica which was previously thought to be too stable to lose ice mass (Chen 2009)

  · Greenland ice loss is accelerating (Velicogna 2009, van den Broeke et al 2009)

  · Glaciers are shrinking globally at an accelerating rate (WGMS 2008)
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  besty

  · Arctic sea-ice loss is accelerating with the loss rate exceeding model forecasts by around a factor of 3 (Stroeve 2007).

  · The height of the tropopause is increasing (Santer 2003, press release)

  · Jet streams are moving poleward (Archer 2008, Seidel 2007, Fu 2006)

  · The tropical belt is widening (Seidel 2007, Fu 2006)

  · There is an increasing trend in record hot days versus record cold temperatures with currently twice as many record hot days than record cold temperatures (Meehle 2009, seepress release).

  · Atmospheric CO2 is at its highest level over the past 800,000 years (Brook 2008). The rate of increase is the fastest in 22,000 years (Joos 2008)

  · Satellites measure less infrared radiation escaping out to space at the wavelengths that CO2 absorb energy (Harries 2001, Griggs 2004, Chen 2007)

  · Surface measurements find more infrared radiation returning back to the Earth's surface (Philipona 2004), specifically at the wavelengths that CO2 absorb energy&n
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  besty

  · Satellites measure less infrared radiation escaping out to space at the wavelengths that CO2 absorb energy (Harries 2001, Griggs 2004, Chen 2007)

  · Surface measurements find more infrared radiation returning back to the Earth's surface (Philipona 2004), specifically at the wavelengths that CO2 absorb energy (Evans 2006)

  · A shift towards earlier seasons (Stine 2009)

  · Lake and river ice cover throughout the Northern Hemisphere are freezing later and breaking up earlier (Magnuson 2000, Hodgkins 2005)

  · Changes to physical and biological systems across the globe are consistent with warming temperatures (Rosenzweig 2008)

  · Cooling and contraction of the upper atmosphere consistent with predicted effects of increasing greenhouse gases (Lastovicka 2008)

  · Pitcher-plant mosquitoes are genetically evolving to adapt to shifting seasons (Bradshaw 2001)

  · Distribution of plants are shifting to higher elevations (Lenoir 2008)
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  besty

  The problem with AGW skeptics is they focus on one piece of the puzzle and become overnight armchair 'experts' on say for example the CRU dataset.

  Ignoring the huge body of empirical evidence from other sources they now feel sufficiently empowered to cry foul.

  BTS et al - are you now writing off the entire field of climate science as one big scam?
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  villabolo

  BS BTS, a brief comparison of your first two charts will prove that they (haven't had time to inspect the rest) are FRAUDELENT. Focus at the bottom of both charts and you shall see that the first one places 500 and a fraction of years in the same time frame as the second chart places 1200 years. Inch per inch the centuries occupy different lengths. Also, the temperatures on the left hand side of both charts do not match.

  Basically what you or the graphmongers whom you trust with your life have done is to stretch and compress the chart. Adios muchacho!

  villabolo

  Edited to correct minor errors.
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  besty

  Have you noticed when the skeptics do cite a source its usually to a denier blog or the media, and rarely to an actual climate scientist?

  Perhaps thats because 97.5% of climate scientists agree that human activity is contributing towards a rise in global temperature.
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  hamilcarr

  The rest of that article reads like the CIA document from the 1970's. This is alarmism worthy of a Watchtower magazine. "The end is near."

  You probably read another article. Here's the link again:

  http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_869_en.html
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  B-Rock

  Villabolo isfunny. He can't be serious with his argument regarding the charts. They are throughly accurate, and they make the point that Greenland has been far warmer than now, even only a few hundred years ago.

  Have you noticed when the skeptics do cite a source its usually to a denier blog or the media,

  You mean like your posts above copied verbatim from climateskeptic? Your dishonesty is boundless, isn't it, besty?

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  Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa: global warming "is the biggest scientific hoax being perpetrated on humanity. There is no global warming due to human anthropogenic activities. The atmosphere hasn’t changed much in 280 million years, and there have always been cycles of warming and cooling. The Cretaceous period was the warmest on earth. You could have grown tomatoes at the North Pole" [ 31 ]

  Robert M. Carter, geologist, researcher at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University &am
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  B-Rock