by leavingwt 74 Replies latest social entertainment
if this thing bombs at the boxoffice as badly as did the Sicko
The studios didn't buy the film he made after Sicko.
Slacker Uprising is a movie of Michael Moore’s tour of colleges in battleground states during the 2004 election, with a goal to encourage 18-29 year olds to vote, and the response it received. The film is a re-edited version of Captain Mike Across America, which played at the Toronto International Film Festival in 2007 to tepid response.
You can watch it for free, here:
I am starting to think that MM is getting to be yesterdays news. I believe that the fall from grace probably started with the Bowling for Columbine anti-gun screed which was so full of misrepresentations and outright falsehoods that it embarrassed even the normally leftist hollywood crowd.
The Jack Cashall book "Hoodwinked" devotes a chapter to it. One of the total lies involved the MM claim that the NRA deliberately had a national convention near Columbine to counter anti-gun sentiment. In fact the convention had been scheduled and facilities booked long before the Columbine shooting.
Looking forward to seeing it.....Michael Moore telling it as it is
I enjoyed the documentary film critical of Moore. Ebert gave it two thumbs up.
Not lies Burns. I just print off a statement of charges we pay for health insurance and medical bills, line it up with all the taxes on top of that and they can see who comes out on top. (Taxes are less than insurance and medical costs by the way) It ain't us.
Cuba has proven by international standards that it has a higher level of healthcare for all it's citizens than the USA. They also have free medical school and send their medical teams all over the world to train and assist. You hate Cuba that's obvious and I realize that the revolution by the people against the elite, might rankle your sense of what the world should be but it is what it is now. Americans must buy their drugs from Mexico and Canada in order to be able to eat a meal every day and still live - I'm glad you could help your grandmother out when she needed it. Guess you don't want to make that same choice for the people in the country that you are living in and for whom many elderly are now in the same position that you say your own grandmoter was. That's your choice - sammieswife.
Oh beserkers,
don't get upset over the fat man.
Now come kiss my sweetheart. Kiss the monkey... kiss me. It will make all things well. You can still hate Michael Moore too.
But really, I consider his beliefs presented in propaganda form pretty entertaining to say the least.
Sammielee24, I can tell you firsthand, that everything you are saying regarding Cuba is incorrect. You don't send meds to a family member in a country with universal healthcare unless they don't have it.
You hate Cuba that's obvious and I realize that the revolution by the people against the elite, might rankle your sense of what the world should be but it is what it is now.
My own family lived under humble circumstances. My grandfather repaired printing presses, and my grandmother was a secretary. They were not elites. My grandfather was so poor as a child that he had to drop out in 6th grade to work. He sold things on the street, at intersections and corners as a kid. My grandmother at least had high school and some vocational training.
The only person in my family that improved their lot was a grand aunt of mine. She was a Communist from the early days, and she was given an enormous house as a reward. Our system at least attempts to reward hard work and merit, not political connectedness. At least the rest of the family could visit on weekends for the family meal. Ten brothers and sisters. Lots of cousins and kids. That is a big family.
The revolution ruined a lifetime of hard work for my immediate family. When my grandfather had said "enough!" because my father was nearing the age for conscription and atheocommunist brainwash in the national service system, he applied for his visa. Like him, I left a cult for my own son.
They immediately made him turn in the keys to the house he had earned with the sweat of his labor (and grandmother's too) and bought with his own money and go live with my great grandmother. He could not sell it. He had to drive to another town and turn over the family Buick to the government so someone else could have it instead. He then had to figure out how the hell to get back home. They were homeless and reliant on the mercy of family for two years. My father would wake up early to make long lines for the family food ration. They were never high on the pecking order because they were filthy traitors. My folks got to know what hunger meant.
At the airport two years later, their luggage was searched and anything of value, be it gold or watches, were taken. They were called "escoria" which means scum. They were called "gusanos," which means worms. They had to come to America with a teenaged son and a newborn, to start all over again scrubbing toilets and cleaning offices at night. But my father and his sister are far better off here, than they would have been had my grandfather not sacrificed everything he owned for them. I am very proud of my grandfather. Eventually he got work as a mechanic, and my grandmother as a secretary. Two years after moving here, they had saved enough money to buy their first home.
Save me your Marxist rhetoric, Sammielee24. I know of what I speak here. It is so discredited only a fool could still believe it. Unbfortunately, the Cuban story has been repeated many times in many countries. All the abundance and goodness you enjoy here is a complete refutation of that ideology.
BTS
BTS,
A question for you.
Would you not say that the revolution in Cuba was a direct result of America's strangling Cuba? Or was it the revolution getting rid of the rich capitalist gringoes, and trying to make life better for the average Cubans? (of course, I know what they would have done to me, LOL, so I'm not advocating Castro)
I would appreciate hearing a little bit about it if you have the time.
The Cuban standard of living was actually higher in the 1950's than it was for much of Western Europe. There are hard statistics out there that back up that statement.
I don't spare America's part of the blame. They made many mistakes. However, Americans did a lot of good in Cuba too. The brought tourism and jobs. Las Vegas was nothing but a craphole in the desert until Castro shut down Habana's casino industry.
Unless you lived way out in the country, you could have whatever you wanted if you just worked for it. Just like here. The peso had achieved a high level of parity with the dollar. TV sets were made available there before they were in the States.
BTS
Sorry for your family hardships Burns...but it is not unique. We all have many stories, often the same. You can continue to name call or label me whatever you want - it matters not. It is how we view our world and our society now that matters and in the matter of healthcare as a right for all people, I care not what country you live in, but I believe it is a right. If that makes me Marxist or Socialist in your point of view, then so be it. I much prefer to live in a country where compassion and freedom are bound by the rights of life in healthcare for all the citizens and not only a select few.
Like I said - elderly people in the USA must go to places like Mexico and Canada in order to buy medicines they need and still have enought money to eat. Those elderly in a for profit, corporatist run healthcare system cannot afford to do both within the USA system, and must rely on their medicine from their neighbouring countries to provide their medicines for them. If we banned this purchasing, many of those people would simply die. If you do not seek to change that, then you are no different than the system you said your own grandmother was forced to use. She might have been a product of a system of Cuba that you view as socialist and not working - all the elderly who would die as a result of a lack of care here, are in no different a position in this capitalist, for profit system.
I opt for at least the socialist system that would allow all of those elderly both access and care within their own country. sammieswife.
