Anyone listening to the confrence call?

by foolsparadise 87 Replies latest jw friends

  • verystupid77
    verystupid77

    And Reniaa how is it love in anyway shape or form to allow a level three sex offender to take care of children with the elders all standing there letting it happen????? The sex offender takes the baby outside and in the backroom alone wow if that is love who needs hate.

  • reniaa
    reniaa

    Hi skeeter 1

    The waters of people have to dry up first which they are doing for all religions...

    Jeremiah 51:36 (New International Version)

    36 Therefore, this is what the LORD says:
    "See, I will defend your cause
    and avenge you;
    I will dry up her sea
    and make her springs dry.

    Revelation 17:1 (New International Version)

    1 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits on many waters.

    Revelation 17:15 (New International Version)

    15 Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.

    Revelation 16:12 (New International Version)

    12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.

    Reniaa

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    She even imposed her "time" on this post.

    I DO not go out of my house any time UNLESS I speak to ALL I meet
    about the very damaging Watchtower Cult.
    I have spoken in Pentecostal.
    Baptist
    Salvation Army
    Catholic
    United
    Mennonite
    Presbyterian Churches
    T.V Warning them about the deceit of the Watchtower teachings.
    I told all that MOST of the people calling at your door,are really lovely folkbut they are carrying the wicked teaching's of Satan the devil.
    People come up to me & thank me profusely.Because they knew there was
    something wrong with them.But didnt want to be rude.So took the mags.
    So YES let us continue to do as Rick suggested ,TELL THE WORLD!!!
    About the HATE of the WT

  • verystupid77
    verystupid77

    Thanks mouthy Right on.

    I have started to do that by giving people the copy of the child abuse cover up and the people I have given it to said the next time a JW calls at their door they are just going to open their door give witnesses a copy of it and say this read this. This is why I do not talk to you anymore as long as you cover up child abuse you do not have God. I love it.

    Thanks Mouthy for being there.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Mouthy, I agree with you. I speak to EVERYONE abou the Watchtower cult.

    Lately, I've been focusing on the following:

    • Many misquotes of non-JW sources printed in the JW literature
    • Excommunication/Disfellowshipping for those who disagree OR question.
    • Church meeting style of not openly questioning anything that is taught by the Organization, including the many misquotes.
    • Excommunicated people losing family, friends, etc.
    • Hypocrisy of Blood Doctrine, Fractions, Current Therapy; and the pressure to accept the blood doctrine or be excommunicated.
    • Beating of women and children secretly "sanctioned" by church through telling women to "wait on Jehovah" to fix spouse and to remain humble while being beaten to a pulp. Spanking rooms for children who can't sit still during 2 hour long meetings. The stories of my own family are chlling enough, but then I point them to others who left the cult and written books.
    • Pedophilia lawsuit materials, thousands of documents filed, appeals files, etc. Then, the Watchtower claims there is not a problem, despite Bethel's use of a reporting form.
    • I don't go into the UN, Malawi stuff...it's almost "old" stuff. But, like 1975 and other false predictions, people are interested in it.

    Spike and Rennai, I sincerely wish you both the best on your spiritual journey. You obviously like to hang out with us apostates, which I consider to be very damaging to your Watchtower controlled mind. Having come out of this cult, I see too much wrong with it for it to ever be "the Truth." You would spend your time better going door to door, then on the return visits to those who discovered the men behind the Watchtower Oz in Brooklyn New York.

  • sacolton
    sacolton

    Who teaches hate?

    “The obligation to hate lawlessness also applies to all activity by apostates. Our attitude toward apostates should be that of David, who declared:“Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you…” Watchtower 1992 July 15 pp.12-13 Christ Hated Lawlessness—Do You?

    “Apostasy is, in reality, a rebellion against Jehovah. Some apostates profess to know and serve God, but they reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible, but they reject Jehovah’s organization and actively try to hinder its work. When they deliberately choose such badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of their makeup, then a Christian must hate those who have inseparably attached themselves to the badness. True Christians share Jehovah's feelings toward such apostates; they are not curious about apostate ideas. On the contrary, they "feel a loathing" toward those who have made themselves God's enemies, but they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance." Watchtower 1993 October 1 p.19

    “Haters of God and his people are to be hated, but this does not mean that we will take any opportunity of bringing physical hurt to them in a spirit of malice or spite, for both malice and spite belong to the Devil, whereas pure hatred does not. We must hate in the truest sense, which is to regard with extreme and active aversion, to consider as loathsome, odious, filthy, to detest. Surely any haters of God are not fit to live on his beautiful earth. The earth will be rid of the wicked and we shall not need to lift a finger to cause physical harm to come to them, for God will attend to that, but we must have a proper perspective of these enemies. His name signifies recompense to the enemies. Watchtower 1952 October 1 p.599

    Watchtower Study, June 7, 2009

    Paragraph 15: Satan was the first creature to turn apostate. Modern-day apostates display characteristics similar to those of the Devil. Their mind may be poisoned by a critical attitude toward individuals in the congregations, Christian elders, or the Governing Body.

    Some apostates oppose the use of the divine name, Jehovah. They are not interested in learning about Jehovah or in serving him. Like their father, Satan, apostates target people of integrity.(John 8:44)

  • cognac
    cognac

    Please people, let's try not to let this thread be about one person.

    Let's move this thread along. Does anybody know when they have to go to court next? I mean, is this thing gonna take years or what??? A 60% tax does seem very high. Is that because they view JWs as a cult and not a religion?

  • Kudra
    Kudra

    I have been trying to find an audio of the phone call to check out.

    I looked on the 6screens site and clicked on "conference calls" and also on the "conference calls archinve"

    Neither has the link... could someone direct me to a recording of the call?

    A link on the first page did not go anywhere.

    thanks,

    -K

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    K it wont be on sixscreens of the Watchtower until Wed or Thursday

  • cognac
    cognac

    Kudra - I think they are putting it up in a few days or so. I don't think its up yet...

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