December 15, 2008 WT on shunning! It's a doozy... (page 7)

isaacaustin

welcome under the radar. Nice to have you and thanks for posting.

mouthy

Welcome Underthe radar...Glad to have you aboard you sound like you have it together

Interesting read, keep coming back!!! even though the board is closing the final remarks will be remememberd

BabaYaga

Awesome points, Confession, you know I loved that incredible letter you wrote to your Mother.

Welcome, Under the Radar! Great post.

Love,
Baba.

still_in74

nah they are referring to the "christian greek scriptures" being part of the bible. of course they get christian teachings from the christian greek scriptures right?

This is mental conditioning at its best and a perfect example of what the WTS does so well.

they love twisting words like this.

Mickey mouse

Some great observations there under the radar.

I'm grateful to the WBTS for providing this WT. More clear undeniable proof to show to my husband that the organization is nothing more than a mind control CULT!

The critical point is : never show the Watchtower or its warped agents any mercy or forbearance. They will never reform, admit they were wrong or genuinely change. They are the epitome of 'men with seared consciences' , collectively incapable of ethical repentance.

How many families and marriages will they destroy with this sick advice? As many as they need to keep their greedy hands controlling others.....

metatron

Mulan

2,4. Our coming to know the truth - the entire body of Christian teachings that has become part of the Bible - and adhering to it are essential for our salvation. 3 John 3,4.

That is TRULY disturbing. Like the Book of Mormon is part of the Bible ............reminds me of that argument. How do they reason that one out?

Sarah Smiles

Jeremy C You Got That Right!

This latest Watchtower article reveals a level of desperation that has not been seen since the shake-up after C.T. Russell's death. They are going to make the same mistakes that Rutherford made in attempting to solidify control.

1.3 is a prime example of Rutherford style of writing.

Who Is The Chosen Lady? Or he may be using a figure of speech! To confuse the persecutors. Her sister would be a member of that congregation and her sister’s children would be another congregation.

Vinny

If true, this new thread actually adds a significant piece to the puzzle regarding the Dec 15th, 2008 WT. It's discussed here:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/168468/1.ashx

The article is obviously referring to close friends and or family members who either share critical views about the WT Society or who've simply decided to just stop going overall.

Many of these people have chosen to fade away and for the most part keep quiet for the sake of maintaining important relationships. These are the ones who (((TRULY ARE SHOWING LOVE))) by wanting to keep such relationships intact even though having to live some kind of lie or double life in the process. These relationships are obviously very important to many who visit this site. But to WT World it's labeled as a fake love and void of real substance due to what they call these ones as being "spiritually empty"... "like waterless clouds" etc they are tagged.

These same folks, the article states, can also "seem to be generous". For example, how many times might those that have faded done truly generous and noble deeds to some still deep inside the faith? Many times people have been kind, helpful, supportive emotionally, physically, financially and more. Yet, if you are no longer an active JW, accepting the full range of JW teachings, and doing the complete JW routine, then you are now automatically labeled as dangerous, void of spirituality, feigning love, appearing to be generous and more.

Now, this new information presented on the above link, if true, would continue along the very same line of thought; that those who are not remaining active and obedient JW's now are going to be dealt with severely.

By combining these two items together we see a pretty sinister picture here going on.

It is not enough to simply speak out against the JW faith to be labeled and shunned by all JW's. But even those that simply STOP GOING, who are no longer active as JW's, without saying anything critical, appear to be lumped together and put into the very same negative light, with the very same consequences as those that speak out against the faith or who are disfellowshipped.

The information in the above thread only supports and clarifies the Dec 15 WT statements on this thread.

Either you are an active, fully supportive of all teachings JW, or you will be soon getting the axe.

Amazing.

Vinny

PS- My wife and I have given our one son that still shuns us all money to help him out along with some nice gifts for our grandson -- who we cannot see at all -- after he was laid off from work when his wife (only 23 years old) suffered total kidney failure. We also often let him know that we still love him and are here for him by leaving messages on his cell phone. (He will not answer or call back at all).

Yet now, conveniently, our acts of kindness and love have been turned into the "feigning love" along with "False teachers that SEEM to be generous".... with waterless clouds,in that they are spiritually empty. Such ones are as fruitless as dead trees in late autumn. They face destruction, as do uprooted trees. Wise we are to shun apostates."

So much for heart-felt, family love and acts of kindness... and now, my wife, who has faded, rather than disassociate as I did (solely to keep a relationship with her son and brother), will be possibly getting the announcement and 'official' shunning that follows simply because she has stopped going.

Can you say cult?

December 15, 2008 WT on shunning! It's a doozy...

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