Hi all and thank you for your kind welcome and for your opinions.
I guess I made an error in the title of the thread. I don't despise individual witnesses (well, some come pretty close) but the Governing Body have the full measure of my disgust and its to them and their methods of reasoning I refer to. I reckon we can all fall into the same trap if we're not careful, especially if we are a type to quickly get defensive.
I'm not asking whether Charlton Heston was a good guy or whether the public have a right to bear arms or not. Jeff used this as a red herring on the other thread. What I'm asking is when we have differences of opinions, do we resort to false argumentation to back ourselves up? Both Jeff and BrentR have done this unnessarily.
I apologise to AK Jeff and BrentR as I clearly misunderstood their thread. I thought it was in memory of him as a man. And as my opinion of him had changed somewhat, I didn't think it was off topic. I didn't realise that they only wanted to hear great things about Heston, hence my reference to rose-tinted glasses.
Here was your first post to an otherwise pleasant thread to that point:
Thats not true Jeff, I didn't turn the thread nasty. Others were far more vitriolic in their comments than I was. You didn't have to respond to my first comment, I was just expressing a personal opinion thats all. I hadn't intended on commenting further on this thread. Its just Brent took umbridge and came back with;
Alzheimer’s disease does not exactly allow you to be sharp as a tack when it comes to anwering questions
to which I replied in part
If he was able to stand up and rally a crowd of NRA members with long speeches and pithy punchlines, then he was able to handle a one to one interview. If he couldn't because of ill health why didn't his people tell him to refuse to do it? I'll tell you why. Because he thought Michael Moore was sympathetic to the NRA cause and that the interview would be a good PR exercise.
When he realised MM wasn't as sympathetic as he thought, ole charlie left the building
To which Brent came back with;
It tells alot about a person when they stoop to that level.
Talk about ad hominem! What do you mean by that Brent? What does it tell you about me? How low do you think I am? gutter?
Just because I don't agree with you. Nice. That was a cheap shot.
You conveniently forgot to mention that I also said;
He was a great actor, I loved Ben Hur
By pointing out his mistakes does not negate the good he accomplished in his life but it gives a fuller picture of the man, warts and all.
And that does far more justice to his memory
Heston was an admirable man in many ways
I lost a great deal of respect for the man. Not as a man with an distinguished career in the acting profession, my respect for him still stands in that field.
I was trying to be balanced in my opinion. But thats clearly not what you wanted to hear. So Ad hominem and red herrings were used just like the Watchtower does. Its this comparison that really offended you wasn't it? Then I apologise for the offense.