AlanF Interview with Creation Book author Harry Peloyan 1997

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  • besty

    This has possibly been posted before (I hadn't seen it) - I found it a fascinating read - well done AlanF for fronting it up....

    It can also be found online at

    Interview With A Watchtower Society Author

    On Wednesday, 27 August 1997, I met with Harry Peloyan for about 1 1/2 hours in the lobby of the 25 Columbia Heights Bethel office in Brooklyn, New York. My purpose was to discuss problems with the “Creation” book with him, since he is its main author. This is my recollection of the discussion and events leading up to it.

    Alan Feuerbacher

    On Tuesday, 26 August, I took tours of the Bethel printing plant at 117 Adams St. and the office building at 25 Columbia Heights. Around 4:00 p.m. I asked at the 25 Columbia Heights lobby desk to see Peloyan. The desk clerk informed me that he had not been in the office that day due to his having physical therapy and having felt poorly. The clerk told me to try coming back the next day, which I did.

    The next day I toured the 360 Furman St. building (shipping) in the morning, then showed up at the 25 Columbia Heights building about 1:15 p.m. I again asked to see Peloyan, but he was not at his desk. The clerk asked me to wait for awhile, so I sat in the lobby while he dealt with a dozen or so large tours, mostly groups of Chicago JWs. After the tours were all launched I again approached the clerk, who said he had forgotten about me. By this time it was nearly 2:30 p.m. The clerk made phone calls while I waited and within a few minutes informed me that Peloyan would be down to see me. He showed up a few minutes later.

    The conversation started off with Peloyan being confused about who I was and what I wanted. I told him that I was related to certain people he knew and then he seemed to get his bearings. I told him that I wanted to talk to him in a private place, so we went to the east end of the lobby and sat down. After a couple of informalities I got right to the point and told him that I wanted to talk to him about some problems in the Creation book, and that since he was the author there was no better person to talk to. He said something like, "Well, you know that all of the Society's books are produced by committees". I acknowledged that and said that still, I knew that he had done the bulk of compiling the book. He didn't comment further, but his later remarks and emotional reaction to some of my criticisms proved his authorship.

    I told Peloyan that the book contained a number of errors of fact and interpretation. He immediately became defensive and, in effect, accused me of being critical because I was probably an evolutionist and therefore couldn't agree with anything the book said because of my prior prejudice. I explained that I was by no means an evolutionist and most certainly accepted God's creatorship. This calmed him down, but he said that I was still in no position to criticize the book because I obviously didn't accept the Society's version of reconciling Genesis and geology. It was lost on him that the Society is no more in a position to claim that it is right about that stuff than are the young-earth creationists, but I figured I'd better not point that out just then.

    We talked about some general items pertaining to reconciling Genesis and geology, such as what sort of evidence one would need to prove a worldwide flood. Peloyan's comments about frozen animals in the arctic and similar standard WTS misconceptions indicated to me that he was the man behind these ideas and probably had been for a good many years, since the same misconceptions appear in mid-1960s WTS literature. He would not accept that the 19th-century reports of enormous numbers of "intact frozen animals" were greatly exaggerated, but did acknowledge that they might be a little bit overblown. I mentioned the Berezovka mammoth and he was completely familiar with it. I tried to discuss details but he pushed the conversation into another "you're just an evolutionist" sort of personal attack. Later I pointed out the "Blue Babe" frozen bison from Alaska, and that its having been eaten by lions while it was freezing pretty much demolished all notions of "enormous numbers of frozen mammoths" in the arctic. He refused to acknowledge this, however, saying that one case doesn't prove anything. I told him to read the account of this bison in _Frozen Fauna of the Mammoth Steppe_.

    I tried to explain what evidence giant floods produce, by telling Peloyan about the great Missoula floods of eastern Washington, but he blew that off by commenting that since it was a local flood it was not applicable. He refused to discuss it further. This again proved that the man is no more qualified to write about science in general than he is about rocket science.

    Peloyan was generally quite reluctant to talk about details of errors in the “Creation” book. He acknowledged that in a general way there might be a few minor problems, but that they were unimportant in the overall context of the book's building up confidence in a Creator. I told him that that was not true, that the book contained “many” errors and that this damaged its credibility. He blew that away with something like "It's just the evolutionists and their sympathizers who find fault". I tried to tell him that this wasn't so, that _anyone_ who had a respect for the truth could find fault, but he cut me short. So then I told him I wanted to relate my own personal experience about why being accurate in these things was so important. I told him how, when in college, I tried to write papers defending the Society's view of the Flood and creation, and how when I looked up the references in various WTS publications I found that they were unusable. He again tried to accuse me of not accepting the references because of my prejudice, but I pointed out that was not true because the very purpose of writing the papers was to defend the Society's views. He had no comment on that, and so we changed the subject.

    Peloyan's overall attitude about using quotes in a way the original author would disagree with was that it did not matter. As long as the words were quoted properly, the author's intent was irrelevant. He seemed to take some delight in the idea of using evolutionist's words against them in this manner, as if it served them right for being so pigheaded. In other words, he and other WTS writers think that the end justifies the means.

    I told Peloyan that I didn't agree with this philosophy because, even though one might justify the result by saying that it defends Jehovah, it violates the idea expressed in Job 13:7-11 ("Will you be deceivers for God? ..."). He got rather upset at the implication that he and other WTS writers would actually lie to defend God, and launched into a defense by saying that these writers would “never” do such a thing, even though they might make mistakes every once in a while. I said that I accepted this, but the fact that the Society has had many such errors pointed out but failed to correct them showed that they indeed had some spirit of being "deceivers for God." I illustrated this by telling him that I and others I knew had written to the Society about certain errors and that the Society either did not reply, or refused to acknowledge them. He hemmed and hawed about this.

    At one pointed I managed to get Peloyan to listen to my criticism of the “Creation” book's misrepresentation of Richard Lewontin (p. 143). He listened as I told him about how Lewontin had not expressed his own view about "the artful design" of organisms being "the chief evidence of a Supreme Designer", but that Lewontin was only describing the view of some 19th-century scientists. Peloyan again seemed entirely familiar with the quote, but wouldn't acknowledge that there was more than a very minor problem with this. I pointed out that it was evidence that whoever put the quote in the book had failed to check the context. I told him that I was convinced that what happened was that someone sent in the quote, having misunderstood it themselves, and then someone else checked the “Scientific American” article where the quote came from to see that the words were indeed there, but they failed to read the context, for if they had they would have immediately seen that Lewontin was not stating his own view, and in fact, explicitly discounted it as a valid view. Peloyan just kind of mumbled about this.

    After that I pointed out that I had figured out how the misquote happened -- that someone had just lifted the quote verbatim from Hitching's “The Neck of the Giraffe”, which had taken it from the ICR magazine “Impact” article by Gary Parker, and that neither Hitching nor Parker had checked (or at least understood) the context of the original article. I further pointed out that Lewontin himself had taken Parker to task a couple of years after the “Impact” article for misrepresenting him.

    After this Peloyan more or less admitted that there was a serious problem with the misquote. Then he again tried to minimize it by saying that it was only one of a small number of errors. In any case, since the book is now some 12 years old, the Society is not going to make any corrections. Peloyan then resorted to a personal attack again, and got up and said he wasn't going to talk to me any more because obviously my attitude was only critical. I managed to calm him down as we walked toward the main entrance of the building. I thought the conversation was over, but when we got near the main entrance he got friendlier and we kept talking.

    Later I pointed out that one man I knew had written to the Society about the Lewontin misquote, and had gone so far as to send in a photocopy of the “Scientific American” article to prove it. The reply from the Society stated that they didn't see anything wrong with the quote, and besides, even if there were, it didn't matter anyway because the main point was that evolution isn't true. Peloyan hemmed and hawed again about this, and it was pretty obvious that he was uncomfortable about the Society's reply but was not going to admit to a real problem.

    Eventually I was able to point out another big error in the “Creation” book, where “Popular Science” magazine was said to have stated that mankind may have only been around for a few thousand years instead of millions. I pointed out that the magazine, in it's editorial voice, had not said that at all, but that it was only quoting what a 7th-Day Adventist physicist had said, and that this was actually his religious view. Peloyan's response was, "Well it's in the magazine, right? So we didn't misquote anything." I said that of course it's a misrepresentation, because just suppose that “The Watchtower” quoted an evolutionist as saying "evolution is true", and then someone else wrote that the Society had now accepted evolution because “The Watchtower” was now saying that "evolution is true". Peloyan wouldn't comment and he obviously got the point. Then he again resorted to his argument that in the overall context of the “Creation” book's purpose, this was of no consequence. I wanted to point out that this was a perfect illustration of bending the truth to defend God, but thought the better of it.

    At one point I told Peloyan that he was mistaken that the “Creation” book only has a tiny number of errors -- he would admit to perhaps three or four. I told him that I had discovered nearly a hundred in the first half of the book. He got quite upset about that and again resorted to personal attacks about my being an evolutionist and therefore prejudiced. He said that I hadn't said anything about how great the book was in the 2nd half, and how wonderfully the book defended the Bible and so on. I told him that, given the limited time we had, I could only talk about the problems that I saw because the positive things were not an issue. He couldn't comment about that and then calmed down.

    Overall, Peloyan was very defensive about the Society's publications and was absolutely adamant that no one in the Writing Department would ever deliberately write something that wasn't true. I had to work hard to keep my mouth shut about some of the more egregious examples where any objective person could see that an author had deliberately lied.

    At one point I offered to send Peloyan some details about the problems in the “Creation” book, but he was quite adamant that he would not read anything I might send in. I'll probably send him a pile of stuff anyway.

    Towards the end of our conversation I switched to more general topics. He started talking about how near "the end" had to be because of the usual JW arguments. I said that that brought up an interesting problem with regard to earthquakes. The Society has said for decades that quakes are much worse since 1914, but my research proved that the risk of dying in a quake is five time lower than 300 years ago. He didn't dispute that, but said that it wasn't important because, since the earth's population is now so much larger, “obviously” more people were going to be affected (this indicates to me that Peloyan must have had something to do with the Society's idiotic claims about earthquakes during the past 20 years). I said that this was not good reasoning because of the following illustration: "suppose New York City has ten million people and out of that, 1000 are killed every year. Now suppose there is a small town of ten thousand people and out of that, 100 are killed every year. In which place would you rather live? The one where the risk of getting killed was one in 10,000 or where it was one in 100? Furthermore, which one could be said to have the worse murder problem?" Again Peloyan refused to answer but it was obvious that he got the point.

    During this conversation Peloyan got a bit defensive about the Society's having said so much in the past about how near "the end" was. He said that for several reasons it is today so much clearer why "the end" could not have come earlier, but that it's now “very” near. He said that the recent advances in various technologies such as computers would allow society to be quickly rebuilt after Armageddon, and that even ten years ago this would not have been the case. I thought to myself how completely out of touch with reality the man is.

    Peloyan's advice to me personally was to just forget about the “Creation” book's problems and just focus on what the Society does right. In fact, his overall thrust was that since the Society is imperfect, and makes mistakes, to just forget about “all” of its mistakes. Again I thought how completely inane these arguments are because they assume without any justification that the Watchtower Society is God's unique instrument, so that no matter what it does wrong, it's still right overall. These people don't seem to understand that a claim to be "God's people" cannot be based on assumptions but must be proved by actions. And when actions prove the assumptions false, there is a “big” problem.

    I had a strong urge to point out that it's all well and good for people like Peloyan to acknowledge mistakes in a general way, but that many people had been disfellowshipped or forcibly disassociated just for pointing out specific mistakes, so that the Society is talking out of both sides of its mouth with this argument and being grossly hypocritical. However, I kept my mouth shut.

    Peloyan commented on elders, too. Without any prompting from me, he sort of lamented the fact that elders are very hard to control, and that despite the Society's best efforts they still go off and do what they want and often become much too hardnosed. I said that some of the recent “Watchtower” articles on elders were very good on this. I figured it was best not to point out, however, that the state of elders today is a direct result of them being trained by the Society during the past 25 years, so what else could the Society expect? It was reaping what it had sowed.

    I asked Peloyan what he thought about the Internet. He was extremely negative about it, mostly focusing on the pornography aspect. He was also well aware of the activities of JW critics and said that it was really dumb for any JW to get involved in Net discussions.

    We parted on friendly terms and wished each other well.

  • Dansk

    Hi Besty,

    I read the above some years back and it's good that you should make many here, especially newbies, aware of how Watchtower twists the truth for its own ends. In this regard, AlanF has been a thorn in its side for numerous years and it is to JWD's benefit that he still posts here.

    I've met Alan and he's a great guy. His wife, Julie, is lovely.

    Regarding this:

    I asked Peloyan what he thought about the Internet. He was extremely negative about it, mostly focusing on the pornography aspect. He was also well aware of the activities of JW critics and said that it was really dumb for any JW to get involved in Net discussions.

    The Society is negative about the internet because it well knows it is helping expose it to the world. Younger ones, especially, are questioning Watchtower dogma and are not fooled by its perpetual lies and deceit. It also makes me ask again why apologists come here when the likes of the "mighty" Peloyan say they shouldn't get involved with it! They well know that deep down they want to know what we know and are envious of the fact that we are free. The truth is, the "mighty" are fallen!


  • Shepherd Book
    Shepherd Book

    "Does the source have a reputation for acuracy? Can the information be verified by some other means? If you doubt the truthfulness of an item, discard it."


    "Make sure that your use of quotations and statistics harmonizes with the context from which they are taken."

    -Benefit from Theocratic Education, page 225, published by the Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society

  • besty

    hey Dansk!

    thanks for posting a response - I've been on JWD a few years and posting only recently and your posts were ones I always enjoyed (even if secretively until recently)

    AlanF always strikes me as the sort of person you'd be happy to spend time with and it's nice to know from personal experience (yours) that that's the case.

    The reason I posted this was Barbara Anderson refers to it at the end of her Higher Education Document on Freeminds and I tried to find the rest of the interview. Google struggled but got there in the end so I thought why not let more people see it - newbies as you say...

    I'm also aware of your personal situation and I'm thinking of you and your family.

    Besty Regardsy :-)

  • Hannah

    "Make sure that your use of quotations and statistics harmonizes with the context from which they are taken."

    -Benefit from Theocratic Education, page 225, published by the Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society

    No wonder the WT rags mags rarely reference any quotes or other material.

    Before my husband saw the light get brighter and left the borg, he refused to believe that anything the WTS wrote was misquoted. Even when I presented proof from the cited references in the Creation book he refused to look at it.

    JWs are programmed to believe everything they read in the WT literature is fact. They will not look into any "worldly" publications for research purposes. Growing up, my elder dad always made me use the bound volumes to research info for my papers. Needless to say, the cited references didn't go over well with my teachers. My dad never understood why.

  • GermanXJW

    Harry Peloyan's life story can be found in the Watchtower May 1st, 2006.








    Why does God permit suffering? That question had bothered me ever since I was a little boy. My parents were hardworking, honest, and family-oriented. But my father was not religious, and my mother, only a little. So they could not provide me with the answer to that question.

    I WONDERED about that question even more during and after World War II, when I was in the U.S. Navy for over three years. After the war ended, I was assigned to a ship that was sent to China to deliver relief supplies. I was there for nearly a year and witnessed suffering on a large scale.

    The Chinese are industrious, intelligent people. But many were experiencing severe hardships because of poverty as well as the violence unleashed by World War II. I was especially affected by the adorable children, many of whom, undernourished and in rags, would beg from us when we went ashore.


    I was born in 1925 and raised in California, U.S.A. I had never seen anything like it. Thus, over and over I asked myself, ‘If there is an almighty Creator, why would he permit such conditions to afflict so many people, especially innocent children?’

    I also wondered why God, if he indeed existed, would permit such destruction, mass murder, death, and suffering as had come upon mankind over the centuries—particularly during World War II, when over 50 million people lost their lives. Moreover, throughout that war, why would people of the same religion, encouraged by their clergy, kill one another because their nationality was different?



    When World War II began in 1939 and wholesale slaughter came upon the human family, I felt that there could not be a God. Then, in a science course in high school, each of us students was required to build something of a scientific nature. Since I was interested in astronomy, I undertook building a large reflecting telescope with an eight-inch- [20 cm]diameter mirror.

    To build this telescope, I bought a piece of glass over an inch [2.5 cm] thick and eight inches [20 cm] wide and had a glass cutter make it round. Then I began the laborious task of grinding it by hand to make it into a concave mirror. That took all my free time for an entire semester. When the mirror was finished, I mounted it in a long metal tube and fitted the telescope with eyepieces of various strengths.

    On a clear, moonless night, I took my completed telescope outside for the first time and focused it on the stars and on the planets of our solar system. I was astounded at how many heavenly bodies there were and how well-organized everything was. Then, when I learned that some "stars" were, in fact, galaxies like our Milky Way, each containing billions of stars, I was even more astounded.

    ‘Surely,’ I thought, ‘all of this could not have happened just by itself. Nothing that is organized happens by accident. The universe is so well-organized that it looks as if a genius made it. Could there be a God after all?’ The experience with the telescope caused me to back away somewhat from the dogmatic atheistic viewpoint that I previously held.

    I then asked myself: ‘If there is indeed a God powerful and wise enough to create this amazing universe, could he not correct the pitiful situation on earth? Why did he permit all this misery in the first place?’ When I put such questions to religious people, they could not provide satisfactory answers.

    After high school and several years in college, I joined the U.S. Navy. However, chaplains in the military could not really answer my questions either. Too often, those who were religious said something like, "The Lord works in mysterious ways."



    After I left China, the questions I had about why God permits suffering persisted. I could not get them out of my mind, especially when I saw military cemeteries on the various islands we stopped at on our way home across the Pacific. Almost all the graves were for young men whose lives had barely begun.

    When I arrived back in the United States and was released from the navy, I had one year of school to finish at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts. I graduated after that year and got my degree, but I did not go home to California. I decided to stay on the East Coast for a while to try to find answers to my questions. I had in mind going to New York City, where there were many religions, in order to attend some religious services to see what was taught.

    In New York my aunt, Isabel Kapigian, invited me to stay at her home. She and her two daughters, Rose and Ruth, were Jehovah’s Witnesses. As I did not think that I would be interested in their beliefs, I began attending the services of other religions, talking to people and reading their literature. I would ask them why God permits suffering, but they did not know the answer any more than I did. I concluded that perhaps there was no God after all.



    Then I asked my aunt and her daughters if I could read some of their literature to learn the views of Jehovah’s Witnesses. When I read the publications, I quickly saw that the Witnesses were very different from other religions. The answers came from the Bible and were very satisfying. In a short time, my questions about why God permits suffering were answered.

    Not only that, but I could see that Jehovah’s Witnesses backed up their Bible-based answers with actions. For example, I asked my aunt what the young men of Jehovah’s Witnesses did in Germany during World War II. Did they join the armed forces there, say "Heil Hitler!," and salute the swastika flag? Her answer was no, they did not. And because of their neutral stand, they were sent to concentration camps, where many of them were murdered. She explained that during the war the position of Jehovah’s Witnesses everywhere was the same—that of neutrality. Even in democratic countries, young men of Jehovah’s Witnesses were put in jail for their neutral stand.

    My aunt then asked me to read John 13:35, which states: "By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves." True Christians must have that identifying mark of love on an international scale. Never would they be found on opposing sides in war, killing one another because their nationality was different! She asked: "Could you imagine Jesus and his disciples taking opposing sides in Rome’s wars, killing one another?"

    I was also directed to 1 John 3:10-12. It says: "The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Everyone who does not carry on righteousness does not originate with God, neither does he who does not love his brother. . . . We should have love for one another; not like Cain, who originated with the wicked one and slaughtered his brother."

    The Bible is clear. True Christians love one another, no matter which nation they live in. Thus, they would never be found killing their own spiritual brothers or anyone else for that matter. That is why Jesus could say of his followers: "They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world."—John 17:16.



    I soon learned that the Bible tells us why God has permitted suffering. It explains that when God created our first parents, he made them perfect and put them in a paradise garden. (Genesis 1:26; 2:15) He also gave them a very desirable gift—free will. But they had to use that faculty responsibly. If they obeyed God and his laws, they would continue to live in perfection in a paradise. They would extend the boundaries of that paradise until it encompassed the entire earth. Their offspring would also be perfect, so that in time, this earth would be a glorious paradise inhabited by perfect, happy people.—Genesis 1:28.

    However, if Adam and Eve chose to go their independent way, apart from God, then he would no longer sustain them in perfection. (Genesis 2:16, 17) Unfortunately for mankind, our first parents abused their free will and chose to be independent from God. They were spurred on by a rebellious spirit creature who came to be known as Satan the Devil. He coveted independence from God and the worship that rightly belongs to God alone.—Genesis 3:1-19; Revelation 4:11.

    Satan thus became "the god of this system of things." (2 Corinthians 4:4) The Bible states: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." (1 John 5:19) Jesus called Satan "the ruler of the world." (John 14:30) The disobedience of Satan and our first parents brought imperfection, violence, death, sorrow, and suffering to all mankind.—Romans 5:12.



    To demonstrate what the ignoring of the Creator’s laws would mean for the human family, God has permitted its consequences for thousands of years. This time period has provided ample opportunity for all mankind to observe the truthfulness of what the Bible says: "To earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step. Correct me, O Jehovah."—Jeremiah 10:23, 24.

    Now, after all these centuries, we can see that rulership independent of God has been a disaster. Thus, God purposes to let mankind continue this ruinous experiment of independence from him and his laws no longer.



    Very soon, Bible prophecy shows, God will bring this vicious, cruel system of things to an end: "Just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more . . . But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace."—Psalm 37:10, 11.

    A prophecy at Daniel 2:44 declares: "In the days of those kings [all forms of rulership now existing] the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite." Never again will human rule be permitted. All the earth will be ruled by God’s Kingdom. Under its administration, the entire earth will be made a paradise and mankind will grow to perfection to live forever in happiness. The Bible promises: "[God] will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore." (Revelation 21:4) What a marvelous future God has in store for us!



    Finding satisfying answers to my questions changed my life. From then on, I wanted to serve God and help others find these answers. I understood the seriousness of what 1 John 2:17 says: "The world [this present system of things ruled by Satan] is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever." I keenly wanted everlasting life in God’s new world. I decided to stay in New York and began to associate with a congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses there, having many good experiences helping others learn what I had learned.

    In 1949, I met Rose Marie Lewis. She, her mother Sadie, and her six sisters were all Jehovah’s Witnesses. Rose was serving God full-time in the preaching work. She had many good qualities, and I was drawn to her immediately. We were married in June 1950 and stayed in New York. We were happy in what we were doing and rejoiced in the hope of living forever in God’s new world.

    In 1957, Rose Marie and I were invited to serve full-time at the world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses, in Brooklyn, New York. By June 2004 we had been happily married for 54 years, 47 of them at the Brooklyn headquarters. They were blessed years of serving Jehovah and working alongside thousands of fellow believers.



    Sadly, in early December 2004, Rose Marie was diagnosed with a cancerous tumor in one of her lungs. Experts agreed that it was fast growing and had to be removed. The surgery was performed later in December, and about a week afterward, the surgeon came into Rose’s hospital room while I was there and said: "Rose Marie, go home! You’re healed!"

    However, only a few days after coming home, Rose Marie began to have severe pains in her stomach area and elsewhere. These persisted, so she went back to the hospital for further tests. It was found that for some reason, a number of her vital organs were producing blood clots that were preventing those organs from getting the necessary oxygen. The doctors did everything humanly possible to counteract this but were unsuccessful. Only a few weeks later, on January 30, 2005, I suffered the most crushing blow of my whole life. My dearest Rose Marie died.

    At the time, I was almost 80 years old and had observed the suffering of people all my life, but this was different. Rose Marie and I were, as the Bible says, "one flesh." (Genesis 2:24) I had seen the suffering of others and had suffered myself when friends and relatives died. But the suffering I experienced when my wife died has been far more intense and long lasting. I now fully realize what immense sorrow the death of loved ones has brought to the human family for so long.

    Nevertheless, my understanding of the origin of suffering and how it will end has come to my rescue. Psalm 34:18 says: "Jehovah is near to those that are broken at heart; and those who are crushed in spirit he saves." A key to enduring this suffering is knowing that the Bible teaches that there will be a resurrection, that those in the graves will come forth and have the opportunity to live forever in God’s new world. Acts 24:15 says: "There is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous." Rose Marie loved God intensely. I am sure that he loved her the same way and that he will remember her and will bring her back in his due time, hopefully very soon.—Luke 20:38; John 11:25.

    While grief at the loss of a loved one is great, joy at receiving back a loved one in the resurrection will be greater. (Mark 5:42) God’s Word promises: "Your dead ones will live. . . . The earth itself will let even those impotent in death drop in birth." (Isaiah 26:19) Many among "the righteous" mentioned at Acts 24:15 will likely be resurrected early. How wonderful that time will be! And among those brought back will be Rose Marie. What a welcome she will receive from her loved ones! How satisfying it will be at that time to live in a world where there is no suffering!


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    I witnessed suffering while stationed in China


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    Since 1957, I have been serving at the headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Brooklyn


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    I married Rose Marie in 1950


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    On our 50th wedding anniversary, in 2000

  • AlanF

    It's interesting to look back over the ten years since my little interview with Peloyan. He's been dead since 2005, I think, and he must have died a disappointed man. The end that was "so very close" in 1997 had still not come and even today shows no signs of coming. Peloyan's plight is mirrored by that of all old JWs who've banked their lives on the Society's lies.

    I had another run-in with Peloyan just after the U.N. scandal broke in 2001. A day or so after the U.K. Guardian article appeared and the Society withdrew its NGO membership, I called Peloyan on the phone and actually connected. I simply asked him for his take on the situation. He immediately blew up and accused "you people" of "making a molehill out of a mountain" (he became so upset he could hardly speak). I could hardly say anything to him after that. He soon launched into a two-minute ranting monologue, during which I just chuckled to myself, and without another word from me, he hung up. I laughed for quite awhile after that.

    Peloyan, although he had his good points in terms of quietly fighting against the Society's criminal policies on child molestation, seems to me typical of JW leaders -- supremely arrogant in their confidence of speaking for God, self-important in the extreme, extremely stupid in most intellectual matters such as science and philosophy, and completely unwilling to listen to anyone outside their inner circle of leaders. Barbara Anderson relates how Peloyan was absolutely devastated back in the early 1990s when he wasn't made one of the Governing Body helpers (aka Nethinim, or Given Ones), and moped around Bethel for many days. Eventually GB member Lloyd Barry had to reassure him that his job as editor-in-chief of Awake! was a very important job.

    Really, these men are like aging little children who have not had a solid dose of reality in decades, having insulated themselves in the confines of Bethel. Well, reality is catching up with them, as they die off in their old age, never having seen what they'd worked so long to get.


  • GermanXJW

    Strange, that the 2006 Watchtower does not mention that he is dead.

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    I spoke to Harry Peloyan at bethel on the phone about 3-4 years ago for about 10-15 minutes. based on what i learned about the Creation book aS told by ALLEN F AND A FEW OTHER awake articles that Harry Peloyan is the editor of the AFAKE MAG. well good old Harry started off all prideful and haughty. like any member of the FDS SHOULD ACT . till i started asking him HARD questions. poor Harry STARTED ACTING LIKE A DEMON. when he couldn't HONESTLY answer any of my questions. Poor harry was left there sitting at his desk FUMBLING like a LYING SON OF A BITCH. and i made sure i let him know he was a LIAR. of course this spritual giant that all you jw's follow , all of a sudden had an important meeting to go to. he was busted and he knew it. i'll bet the only important meeting he had after talking to me was with the TOILET. CALL THIS WT DEMON AT 1718 560 5000 and ask for Harry Peloyan. they will put this DOPE on the phone. just know your topic first. and DRILL this dope. trust me it's easy. john of the class that i can't post any more today.

  • Sunspot

    "He's been dead since 2005, I think, and he must have died a disappointed man. The end that was "so very close" in 1997 had still not come and even today shows no signs of coming. Peloyan's plight is mirrored by that of all old JWs who've banked their lives on the Society's lies."

    The more time marches on, the more JWs are dying with the very same disappointments and disillusions common to this cult. It is becoming increasingly difficult for the men who write for the WTS to try and think up "new and fresh" gimmicks and tactics to assure the older ones that the "end is indeed, tight around the corner". It is tragic and it is sad to see entire LIVES being wasted on believing their garbage.

    "Really, these men are like aging little children who have not had a solid dose of reality in decades, having insulated themselves in the confines of Bethel. Well, reality is catching up with them, as they die off in their old age, never having seen what they'd worked so long to get."

    The worst thing IS---that the JWs seem to gratefully lap up any (and every) morsel of the disgusting poisoned "food" that they dish out, while waiting for their fantasy Watchtowerland to emerge from the mist and make them "happy-happy-happy". Existing only for the dream of living with ONLY OTHER JWs for eternity! Putting their lives on hold for decades really messes with people's heads and distorts their thinking.

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