My plan--fully revealed (page 11)

Who are you?

You seem to have had some positive thoughts about JWs, and now the thoughts seem not so positive. Explain.
How does this relate to your marriage vows?, which bring the Creator into at least this relationship, since Jehovah was to found the institution of marriage, with the yoking of Adam and Eve.
Is being in love with him a requirement for being with him? Is it a requirement you have for anyone else you would live at the same address with?
— I am Q. Bert, after all.

Q Bert, I am not a JW so I have to ask you this....Who the F are you to stick your nose into their business? Are you God's personal spokesperson? Does it matter what they think of JW's? Of course not! Oh, but wait...it does! Why? Because Q Bert says so....where were you when there marriage was heading south? Banging on their door telling them that they need to put more hours in service?

Every frickin JW personally speaks for Jehovah. Isn't that special? A totally self aggrandizing cult creates a bunch of self aggrandizing wannabes. Like the song says "You're doing brain surgery with a monkey wrench". But that won't stop you. You are Q Bert the robot after all

junctions-wife

Q-Bert let me explain this to you in simple terms for a simple mind. I WAS NEVER A JW. I was raised as a methodist and was married by a methodist minister. I never knew what a JW was until met Dave. And he kept that from me at first. So I don't owe you an answer or an explaination of how I feel or what I am thinking.

Amanda

Q. Bert

I am not a JW either, actually, with all due respect. From what I see, Dave and Amanda have been solving their life the way they choose, and aren't about to stop now. I'm not suggesting they should. I'm just share the questions and info that seem helpful to me, since they seem to be interested in positive, empathetic conversation about what they may decide and about what to make of various elements in each others' lives for far.

By the way, when I put one of my signature lines, namely "— I am Q. Bert, after all", I am generally referring to the punctuation that I use in my handle. I am not Q-bert, or QBert, or Q*Bert [the arcade character]. And, "after all" can refer to the fact that I bounce around, to cover all the bases, just like Q*Bert [in the video game I used to play many moons ago.]. And it can mean that I'm just being myself, which is also true.

— I am Q. Bert, after all.

Q. Bert

So, we have something in common. I have never been a JW either, actually, though I still actively worship with them and have done so since 1989. And I have Methodism in my family history as well, athough that was before I was born, in my case. I respect each person's freedom to choose, rightly or wrongly.

Your description of Dave sounds like every relationship I know; each introduces themselves to each other gradually, and often the first impressions aren't the same as later ones. The 2 of you are the ones with the marriage still in place. The answers and explanations of how either of you feel or are thinking are matters of great importance to both of you, and only incidentally to any of the bit-part cast members in this on-going public-forum discussion. I have said in a previous post, that I expect this thread to be "taken indoors", out of the public forum at some point(s). But, as long as you're game, I don't mind sharing my thoughts, based on my experience, for whatever value you each may find. It's another free opinion. I can more easily stand "ad hominem" attacks on myself, than I can on others, especially those who may not be able/willing defend themselves here on this forum.

— I am Q. Bert, after all.

onlycurious

Excuse me for my confusion Q-Bert, but how in the world can you say you are not a jw but you have been actively participating in worship with them since 1989?

This doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Can you explain?

Junction-Guy

Q.Bert, I was born and raised a JW, never baptized, and walked away from it in 1993. When I left I never knew the extent of their lies until 4 years later.

So if you are not a JW, then why do you even bother worshippng with them?

I have enjoyed reading your replies, and you have brought this topic to the top of the active list, but I no longer believe in the JW religion, The Watchtower magazine, or any of that stuff.

lisavegas420

I didn't fully disclose my relationship with the JW's to my husband until we had been married a few years. hahaha..actually I thought I was doing him a favor. I knew he knew NOTHING about the JW's so I knew he would have to be given a second chance at life. booyah!

lisa

penny2

Junction-Guy and junctions-wife, even if you don't get back together again, I hope at some stage in the future you give each other a really big hug.

penny2

Junction-Guy

Thanks Penny2, we will definitely give each other a big hug the next time we meet.

bernadette

Before this thread closes Junctionguy I just wanna say something that occurred to me today

WTS teachings do a lot of damage to a persons ability to experience and express intimacy. Also you have both said about liking your own company to an extent. And junctionguy you have been wondering if you are gay. Being gay or hetero imo has to do with intimacy, both emotional and physical - so maybe that's an area to explore together or separately with a counsellor who specialises in that field.

Its something to look into even if you decide to separate because the wts consumes that aspect of a person's emotional makeup for itself

I'm saying all this beause you both imo seem have such a solid basis for an ongoing mutually beneficial relationship

all the best

bernadette

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