Does anybody feel like if not for the Internet we could have still been in

by ladione5000 30 Replies latest jw friends

  • choosing life
    choosing life

    I knew in my heart that many things were wrong in JW land, but couldn't talk to anyone about it due to fear. When I started researching on the internet, I realized I was not alone or crazy. This site in particular is a gold mine. Then came Cof C and ISOCF by Franz. I know some criticize him for not doing more, but I think he was instrumental in opening the governing body's craziness to the world.

    And yes the internet is undoubtably the biggest enemy of the survival of the organization as it exists today. I truly believe many changes will have to be made or their end may be sooner than they think.

    The strange thing is, I would never have googled Jehovah's Witnesses if they wouldn't have told me not to. It made me want to find out what they were hiding.

  • bubble
    bubble

    I was df'd over 4 years ago but only started looking on sights like this about a year ago.

    It has just confirmed all the things that I thought about the WBTS are actually true.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    I went inactive years before I got the internet. The thing is, even when I was a faithful jw, I knew I would never be able to resist Apostate Literature, should I come across some. If I could have figured a way to get some, I would have read it. Still, the internet did help me. I'm so middle aged now that I can't remember if I ever heard the title of Ray Franz' books or not.

  • misguided
    misguided
    considered just another XJW who still believed it was the truth

    This would be the case with me if it wasn't for the internet.

    I've been on the internet since 1996. I was df'd in 2002. I googled JW's in 2005 at a time when I was considering a return to the org. What I learned amazed me! Every gut feeling I ever had was validated.

    COC was instrumental as well, but interestingly, it was given to me as a gift by someone who comes into my office who has never been a JW.

    Rose

  • Dansk
    Dansk

    Ladione5000,

    Good questions!

    When one first starts having doubts one's mind can be in turmoil. Fear abounds because one feels one is being watched by Jehovah all the time and that he is going to be angry for our even contemplating that his only blessed organisation on earth is being questioned by a mere mortal.

    Where does one go? I can't even tell my wife or a clsoe friend - because they're JWs and may well report me to the elders "because it's the loving thing to do and they want me saved from Satan's clutches!"

    Anyone who leaves the organisation today has my utmost respect. Anyone who left prior to the internet has double that respect! Why? Because when I started to question in my own mind the internet revealed to me that I wasn't alone! There were literally thousands of people out there from all over the world and from all walks of life who could genuinely empathise with me - and I them!

    So fearful was I that even going on the internet had me looking over my shoulder. I would find an apostate site, read a paragraph or two and then get off quickly. My mind kept saying things like "The society has warned us about Satan's cunningness and how he uses such sites to draw us away from Jehobah's loving organisation!". However, every time something at the kingdom hall upset me - such as a patronising comment from a pompous elder - I would come home and switch my computer on. Reading more paragraphs on apostate sites became easier to do.

    I remember going on Amazon and coming across Ray Franz's book Crisis of Conscience. The advertising said: "The book Jehovah's Witnesses don't want you to read." I quickly Googled Ray Franz and found a Time magazine article about hime. He'd been a member of the GB. Why would this idiot throw everlasting life away? What a moron, I thought!

    I came off the internet again thinking I'd done wrong, but telling no one - all the while performing my privileged MS duties and going out in the field misery every weekend.

    Back to the Amazon page and Ray Franz's book had some pages that could be read on line. I started to read and got hooked - but the damn pages ran out just when things were getting interesting!

    ISP, a poster here who was in my congregation and who had exited about a year earlier with his wife and young children, lived around two miles from my home. I telephoned him and asked him how I could get out. ISP didn't trust me (I could tell by his tone of voice) but he asked me to go round. I drove round that very night, had a wonderful chat with him and his wife Latte (who also posts here) and was given a copy of Franz's book to read. The rest is history!

    ISP told me to join JWD as it was, he said, the best site for XJWs. I logged onto the site and quickly logged off again. The very first post I had opened contained nothing but profanities. The Watchtower was right, I thought. When people leave they become bitter and twisted and resort to profanities and lewd behaviour.

    I told ISP and he convinced me to try again. He said sometimes people vent because they are in pain. He was right! The next post I opened was pleasant and I could identfy. I read more and the rest is history.

    I learnt a valuable lesson, though. Whenever possible, I try not to use profanities - because that post could be the first a lurker comes across and it could well shy him/her away from this wonderful lifeline of a site!

    The internet has been priceless in my being able to exit from a mind-controlling heinous cult. From coming here I've also perused Randy's great site at Freeminds! Coming here has brought me friendships I would never have had in my wildest dreams. My family and I (bar one) are truly living! We are absolutely free of any fear!! We have also had the privilege of meeting many JWD posters.

    I can't say for sure if I would still have been a JW had the internet not been around. Probably not - but teh exit would have taken longer and would likely have been a lot more painful (I would have had no information, which I downloaded, to show my wife and convince her to exit, too).

    Here's to the internet Our greatest weapon against Watchtower - and they jolly well know it!

    Ian

  • blondie
    blondie

    I was on my way out before the internet came into my life. The actions of the people in the organization convinced me. I just learned how many people felt similarly and more access to WT publications that helped me hang them with their own words.

    No, we would have been out regardless of the internet, just perhaps a little more alone and unaware of how to contact other ex-JWs.

    Blondie

    (How did one find ex-JW groups pre-internet?)

  • zev
    zev

    i first went online in 1995.( yeah i was a holdback) it was nearly 5 years before i started to research my roots. jw'ism and why i felt the way i did for so so long. the internet made that research possible. i dont know if i would have or could have the answers to so many of my questions without it. maybe i could have, but then how would the un/wtbts specticale have come to be what it was without the internet? now if i could only figure out how to make my post display the way i actually type them with firefox, my life would be complete. oh, and get rid of the jw who is stalking me.

  • BCZAR2ME
    BCZAR2ME
    The internet has been priceless in my being able to exit......

    IT'S SATAN. SATAN CREATED THE INTERNET!

    bczar

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    The Internet was frosting on the cake.

    I already knew that I needed to get out of the religion, just from researching WT material, comparing some non-apostate materials at the library. I would not have decided as quickly that I need to get out, because the internet steered me toward finding out about the UN and helped me find Ray Franz's book, but I would have found the book without the internet, I would have started my fade soon enough.

    I think the net is great for those considering going in to the cult. They can find out, then avoid that heartache.

  • JapanBoy
    JapanBoy

    IT'S SATAN. SATAN CREATED THE INTERNET! bczar Dear bczar: Are you really serious? Satan invented the www? k

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