Also please consider the fact that Loch Ness Monsters are a fable. Detonating devices and Halliburton are not. You need to consider the fact that Aristotle Onasis, and others in the past have funded wars. Families in America and Britain fund war to start using new technology. It's called "playing with our toys in the sand". We make bigger tanks, rockets, bullets, and guns, and we need third world societies to test them on while we drink tea and eat crumpets. That's the sad truth. Rockefellers and others have been making pawns of us peasants since the industrial revolution and the American Education society came up with the idea of stopping free education at 18. The government is made up of the "people" alright. The Freemasons, specifically the Scottish Rite. It is all about big family and big money and big oil. You, me and any other mindless exdub on this site are all peons to the real rich. A person with a net worth of a million dollars today is a street bum.
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by Butters 82 Replies latest jw friends
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skyking
What really gets me is people do not believe the Government could lie too them. As i has stated in the past. I contract work for a man that has said for years, that the Government knew about the attack at Pearl Harbor before it happened. I always thought he was full of BS but never put the man down for his thinking. He would tell anyone that would listen to him. People treated him like he was a nut job. The crazy conspericy theorist is at it again.
He finally got his revenge when the History channel reported he was correct, some in our government including the President did know before it happened the Japanese were going to attack. The facts now have been released, he was correct, Why is there not an out cry because of this? Because, people are drones they just except things they way they are.
We had an out right deception played on the American people to get us to go too war. About the same amount of people died at Pearl Harbor. Even after the facts have came out people do not care they went to war based on a conspericy theory that was proved true. I did not see the local paper report this, nor the evening News. No one give a shite. Can you say BAAAAAA.
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Butters
Even more horrible is that people don't remember the result of that attack as well. Truman went after Japan with Atomic weapons. Two major Japanese cities, their citizens, good wonderful hard working people making all sorts of DVD players and computers for us today were wiped out in a split second. How many? Almost a half million people. That was the worst TERRORIST act ever, and it was committed by the Good ole' USA. Kinda' makes ya, wanna grab your bible and cowboy hat, and gun and start yellin' "Hey tex, did yoou shoot that varmit with yer shotgun or yer buck rifle?"
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fleaman uk
Truman went after Japan with Atomic weapons. Two major Japanese cities, their citizens, good wonderful hard working people making all sorts of DVD players and computers for us today were wiped out in a split second. How many? Almost a half million people. That was the worst TERRORIST act ever,
No my crazy friend..that was War.Imperial Japan was a Country that commited the worse atrocities in China ,treated Allied Prisoners like Scum and had a racial policy the equal of Adolf Hitlers.Japan ATTACKED USA...not the other way round.Would Roosevelt really have allowed Battle ship row to be destroyed..possibly paving the way to a Japanese invasion?I think not..but hey,you carry on with your silly shite..seems to make you happy.
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JamesThomas
Freetosee:
Personally I have not made up my mind and am not in a hurry to do so.
Good for you. To open minded people like yourself, Free, I would say that what people call "9/11 conspiracy theorists" are really just people questioning the official conspiracy theory of 19 Arab men performing alone. You may find evidence that requires a far more thorough and unhindered investigation than we have had so far. Actually the lies and omissions within the official investigations as it has been presented is evidence in itself for a real, honest and complete investigation.
I have found that, generally, If we look at individual aspects we can naturally come up with different reason for them, and before long find our self in a confusing mess. It may help to step back and attempt to get a bigger picture of things. A coherency which may give new understanding and meaning to what seemed before as merely chaotic and unrelated events. Connecting the dots may be more rewarding than studying one or two dots. Or not.
The documentary which is free on Google and has been posted in this thread already: 9/11: Press For Truth, may be a pretty good place to start. Also study of Paul Thompson's Cooperative research website which lays-out the complete 9/11 time-line: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
Also the 29 page PDF document: Intersecting Facts and Theories on 9/11 (click on it), has a many year span of things and reveals a big picture which gives new meaning to many of the before confusing events.
Good luck. I feel that there are many more like you here who are open to investigation, but do not post as they have little desire to be insulted. It's understandably more comfortable to accept the official story and retain a sense of status quo, than to have your rug of reality pulled out from under you. My heart goes out to those who allow themselves an open and honest investigation of all the information; because it can be extremely saddening and emotionally trying.
I just want to see open, honest and thorough investigations of all evidence.
j
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skyking
fleaman uk Yes the Government did this. Undeniable fact, from the source its self thats right the US Government has admitted this. You remind me of the local Elders. They tried to get me over the NGO's, they refused to even read a letter from the Society that proprove it. They said I had to of made it up on the computer. Even when the facts are out. Many people still don't believe. fleaman uk can you say BAAA for me?
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freetosee
James, thanks for the link. I’ll check the video later. fts
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Butters
No offense fleaman but you have no idea what you are talking about. Pearl Harbor was a military installation. Not civilian cities. The governments were against each other, the military forces of the world, not the people in those cities who were mothers and children just like anywhere else. They were people. They didn't deserve it, and they certainly didn't deserve to be put under the ole' "It was war" excuse. People need to accept that the good ole' USA isn't good at all. IT's evil in many respects just like any other country. Also, I am a firm believer in turning the other cheek, and loving my enemy. Not blowing him up and murdering his family. You mentioned how the prisoners were treated badly by Japan. Did you forget about the exposure of the U.S. troops torturing the Iraqi detained prisoners? It works both ways dude. War sucks. And the people that support it suck more.
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Butters
And what really makes me happy is knowing that I can love you and forgive you all and be friends. It is really amazing how correct the WT was about one major thing. The love of the greater number cooling off. That bible prophecy is getting more and more evident. That organization has unfortuneately messed up many bible truths for so many because of all the other stuff they did. But one teaching I have always had since my leaving, is to forgive everyone for everything they have ever done. All crimes, all things. We are all imperfect, and we all make mistakes. No one should cast the first stone.
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Leolaia
Hi butters....
I am talking about an empty building with no one in it, that was not hit by any plane.
True. But couldn't it have been "hit" by something else?
It was evacuated and came down almost 10 hours after the the others did. Focus on #7 alone here for a moment if you can, and ask yourself and then tell me please, what cause the collapse of that building?
A good way to address this question is to examine what has happening to the building during those 7 hours between 10:28 and 5:25 P.M.