by doinmypart 68 Replies latest members adult
If an appointed servant unintentionally comes across porn there is no need to review his qualifications. If it is deliberate the elders must ask these questions:
Ahh...this is so dumb...who is going to admit to three other guys (that have judging powers) that he looks at porn intentionally...won't they all say they came upon the site by accident? I mean do the elders get to look at the computer and the sites to see what kinda of porn it really was??
that they were forced to remove a good brother just because he did some molestation to a girl
Heh metatron - what an oxymoron. Good brother - molester in the same breath.
They are minimizing abuse of children here. These elders only lose their privileges? No DF? They are splitting hairs and using semantics to get elders off the hook.
I am so p*****
Juni
someone needs to tell the lame arse people that child porn, gnag rape, or snuff films, (sp ), sex with animals. etc are illegal and do warrant some action.or at least the police think so.
Two elders need to meet with a person that has viewed porn and share mag articles
That's appropriate. After all, I only read the magazines for the articles...
if following the Kingdom Ministry choll the elders judicially reproved a brother for viewing forms of pornography that may not have merited judicial action, the decision should stand. However, they should make arrangements to help the brother make a spiritual recovery. It may be that judicial restrictions could soon be removed.
One can only hope that the "worldly" judicial systems do not operate that way. Can you imagine:
"Well, we're sorry, Mr. Hapless. Apparently what you did was not actually under our jurisdiction. It seems that there never should have been a trial, after all. I guess some might feel that you were wrongfully convicted, and never should have been sentenced to imprisonment, but there's nothing we can do about it now... Well, maybe we'll release you sooner than we had planned..."
Post Confession in the Library:
Elder Johnson: OK, well that certainly is a shameful, awful thing you've been doing, Bro. Redface -- lookin' at them nekkid men & women doin' those nasty things.
Bro. Redface: Ah'm really, really contrite, ashamed and sorry my innocent Internet search for "ear muffs for my pussy cat" ...caused me to view pornography - accidentally.
Elder Johnson: You did the right thing by coming to us and confessing this terrible sin. Now, "we need a little info about you for our files".
How many times have you done this sin, accidentally ?
Bro. Redface: 13 times Bro. Johnson.
Elder Johnson: Good...good. 7 times viewing porno is 'practising' sin. But, 14 times...well, that's just plain "greedy & gross". See ?
Bro. Redface: Uh...no...?
Elder Johnson: Well, that's OK, Bro. we have a Secret Elders Manual that explains it all, well, to us Elders anyway. Trust us.
OK. Was there masturbation involved ? That you can recall, that is...? Uh, remember that # 14....?
Bro. Redface: Uh, I do seem to recall it was exactly 13 times. Yep.
Elder Johnson: And just how...ya' know...describe your technique.
Bro. Redface: W-what...?
Elder Johnson: Well, Bro. Deek Hed and I must be able to determine if you were being "greedy" toward your body members in the privacy of your own home. We've heard SO many different ways to "git 'er done", haven't we, Deek ?
Elder Hed: Oh, Hell yeah...! We've got some really innovative brothers & sisters in our Hall...
But, before we get to that...what kind of porn came up on that search ?
Bro. Redface: What...kind ? Uh, you know...nekkid people...doin' stuff. I dunno, brudders. Why ya' keep askin' me all these embarrassing questions ? After all, *I* came to you...
Elder Johnson: Aww...we're sorry. Hey look at the time, listen...just don't do it anymore and don't tell anybody, OK ? We will probably just let it go this time with a stern warning. Me & Bro. Hed still need to determine what "kind" of porn this is...do you you, ah, recall that URL that you used inappropriately 13 times ? Good, good... Write that down & give it to Bro. Hed. We will go check it out at his house right now.
Bro. Redface: Uh, thanks brothers for the, uh, scriptural help...
It could happen......probably has.
Rabbit
Please post this BOE letter. There's a few elders in my old hall who I'd like to let know that I'm aware of their Pharasaical craziness as well as their lack of legal responsibility in notifying authorities of those possessing child porn.
tall penguin
Facts:
1.) Lots of JW's surfing for porn. (mentioned at convention and by visiting CO.)
2.) Been told by elders... what a married couple do in the bedroom is none of the their business. (Lots of JW's loving oral sex...probably anal also. These are NOT a reason for
DF'ing at my congregation.)
3. Concern isn't so much the VIEWING of porn, but are people washing their hands before coming to the hall AFTER viewing porn.
Maybe the elders will be sent black lights and red glasses like the C.S.I. team.
I'm so glad FlyingHighNow mentioned the fact that it is not only "brothers" who could be viewing porn and enjoying it.... Does the BOE letter not even entertain the possibility that "sisters" could be viewing porn? Especially "unintentionally"? LOL
I also would like to see the entire BOE letter posted. Is that possible?
It never ceases to amaze me 1) how fixated the WTS is on sex and
2) how much they love to delve into the minutae of their --- er, "members' " lives!
AlanF: This is all in keeping with the Society's rapid slide deeper into Pharisaism triggered by the coming into absolute power of Ted Jaracz and his cronies.
And to think, some have had the opinion that the additional younger GB members would have a softening effect. Sydlik was about as soft as a GB member gets, and he's gone. The new guys were hand-picked by Jaracz.
I believe this is a trend that we can count on continuing. Infinite tiny rules, endless tedium, hours of scouring for the precise letter that dealt with this issue or that issue from Rabbi Jaracz so that we can adjudicate matters correctly. Fairness and mercy are unimportant compared to correctness. We must make sure that the dill and mint are not in the least under 0.10 of the whole.
They will tear it apart for us. All we have to do is be ready to help a lot of disillusioned people on the other side of what is about to visit the CCoJW (Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses).
Respectfully,
AuldSoul
